On the pre-production status

[Rob. S. 1,667]

  On 1/15/2020 at 4:38 PM, Zamasu said:

You can't decide 

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I hereby inform you that you've now earned the privilege of becoming the first name in my ignore list.

(Reason: Giving one too many asinine answer to something the meaning of which you didn't even understand, or didn't want to understand – which wasn't the first time, either, something which impedes any sensible, intelligent discussion. Farewell, but without me.)

[windraver 63]

  On 1/15/2020 at 3:44 AM, Bruce Wayne said:

Is Fx Tec stopped replying to mails also..

I haven't received reply from them last 3 days.

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They might be behind on their emails. I've gotten responses avg from 1-5 business days.

[_DW_ 628]

  On 1/15/2020 at 3:44 AM, Bruce Wayne said:

Is Fx Tec stopped replying to mails also..

I haven't received reply from them last 3 days.

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do not email them again it sends you to the back of the queue in there support system 😉

[Erik 1,487]

 

[michael.bosscha 142]

It was to be expected that not everything would be sent out, but this is good news nonetheless. #TheClackening is happening!

[agent008 243]

Exciting! I am figuring I'm included in the 70% of fulfilled pre-orders. Shall the pseudo-statistical reckoning begin again? 🤣

[Guest]

Thanks. I have difficulty to understand this part.

" still include 70% of all pre-orders, starting from the oldest, assigned based on a percentage of how many orders there are in a country. "

It seems there are two criteria.

- oldest

- percentage of order per country

How does that work?

[Doktor Oswaldo 915]

  On 1/16/2020 at 12:12 PM, cmar said:

Thanks. I have difficulty to understand this part.

" still include 70% of all pre-orders, starting from the oldest, assigned based on a percentage of how many orders there are in a country. "

It seems there are two criteria.

- oldest

- percentage of order per country

How does that work?

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witchcraft

[agent008 243]

  On 1/16/2020 at 12:12 PM, cmar said:

Thanks. I have difficulty to understand this part.

" still include 70% of all pre-orders, starting from the oldest, assigned based on a percentage of how many orders there are in a country. "

It seems there are two criteria.

- oldest

- percentage of order per country

How does that work?

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Good question! Let me begin the reckoning... sounds they are trying to fulfill about 70% of each destination country?

Edited January 16, 2020 by agent008

[jlavi 112]

"This batch is 6x bigger than the previous batches combined."
"It will, however, still include 70% of all pre-orders"

So 70% * (1 + 1/6) = 82% of all pre-orders covered and 18% still missing?

[Tsunero 215]

  On 1/16/2020 at 12:12 PM, cmar said:

still include 70% of all pre-orders, starting from the oldest, assigned based on a percentage of how many orders there are in a country.

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Does this mean that people in countries where barely any people bought a device are boned even if they pre-ordered super early?

[_DW_ 628]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:05 PM, Tsunero said:

Does this mean that people in countries where barely any people bought a device are boned even if they pre-ordered super early?

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That's how it sounded to me as well.  

[_DW_ 628]

  On 1/16/2020 at 11:56 AM, michael.bosscha said:

It was to be expected that not everything would be sent out, but this is good news nonetheless. #ThePrawning is happening!

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just a slight correction.....

[agent008 243]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:23 PM, _DW_ said:

That's how it sounded to me as well.  

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If so, then I am f***ed. Here's to hoping you are wrong and I am right. I love to be right. Haha.

[Muth 132]

Wondering if my order is on the IGG part, as I got the moto-mod and not a coupon. I don't think so, but it's a very good news that a big batch is going to be shipped !

[Erik 1,487]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:05 PM, Tsunero said:

Does this mean that people in countries where barely any people bought a device are boned even if they pre-ordered super early?

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No no no. The formula is:

1. "Total orders of a country" is what percent of all orders?

2. Then, how many units does the country percentage equal to out of the current batch size?

3. = the number of units shipped to that particular country, based in order of when the payment was received.

Whether it's a country with low interest or not, this formula keeps it fair for everyone. If it was only done in order of payments, the smaller countries may have to wait for a while, as not everyone was awake when we started accepting payments :).

 

Obviously we don't count the Indiegogo orders, as those are all going to be complete with this batch.

[Tsunero 215]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:23 PM, _DW_ said:

That's how it sounded to me as well.  

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Well, explanation to the rescue!

Edited January 16, 2020 by Tsunero
Original message is not relevant anymore

[EskeRahn 5,519]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:05 PM, Tsunero said:

Does this mean that people in countries where barely any people bought a device are boned even if they pre-ordered super early?

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Well if you assume that there in this country are "super early" (almost) only, And those are not IGG backers, well then it does sound like around a fifth will have to wait.

On the other hand for countries where all were super late to order, here some seems to be included.

And no, I have no idea why they are doing it per country. A GUESS could be an attempt to compensate the US that did not get the ones they ought to in the first batch??? Erik explained on the why, before I submitted, see above.

[Erik 1,487]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:53 PM, Tsunero said:

Well if this turns out to be true I am out and will request a refund. 😄

You can't just completely disregard order priority when you promised that they will be sent in order. These betrayals are getting real old.

Holding my breath..for now.

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[Tsunero 215]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:54 PM, Erik said:

 

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Sorry, I didn't hit that  save button fast enough after edit so you saw my older message. Thank you for clearing this up.

[EskeRahn 5,519]

  On 1/16/2020 at 1:52 PM, Erik said:

Whether it's a country with low interest or not, this formula keeps it fair for everyone. If it was only done in order of payments, the smaller countries may have to wait for a while, as not everyone was awake when we started accepting payments :).

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Well we could academically construct scenarios where this would not be fair.

Say a country were all orders were paid yesterday, then 70% of those....

Or the opposite a country with only very early payers...

Of course those are very unlikely, unless we are talking countries with extremely few orders, and if so it will affect only marginally seen from a broader perspective.

[Guest]

One idea would be to stop math, formula and enigma and give openly the list of the countries which will receive phones in this next batch. Might be easier for us to understand.

 

[agent008 243]

  On 1/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, cmar said:

One idea would be to stop math, formula and enigma and give openly the list of the countries which will receive phones in this next batch. Might be easier for us to understand.

 

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But then where's the fun?

[Erik 1,487]

  On 1/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, cmar said:

One idea would be to stop math, formula and enigma and give openly the list of the countries which will receive phones in this next batch. Might be easier for us to understand.

 

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All of the countries that we have orders from will receive devices. The formula above is to ensure they all receive devices, even if there was 1 order from a small island country.

[EskeRahn 5,519]

  On 1/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, cmar said:

One idea would be to stop math, formula and enigma and give openly the list of the countries which will receive phones in this next batch. Might be easier for us to understand.

 

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Well when 70% are to be served, that will mean that ALL countries that has orders would be on the list. Even if only one order. With normal rounding 70% of 1 rounded would be one.