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Interesting! Do you know what network bands are active? As relatively few reports this, I have a suspicion that it (for whatever reason) is limited to some specific bands. I just tried here, and it did NOT boot it goes down to 3G, and then zero bars.

Yes it would be nice with a formalised channel for this. Currently we have two threads: One for discussing and testing possible bugs and the like, and one that was supposed to have confirmed bugs... But they are not 'clean', so hard to find anything in them. There is an unofficial bug-list here that is more easy to read. But a more formalised system would certainly be to everyone's benefit....

Yes, they are also messing with the Ctrl-key!!! So when I press Ctrl+Fn+3 to get a £ symbol with FinQwerty it does not work. FinQwerty offers Ctrl+Fn as a one finger doublet for the two finger Shift+Fn. But Swiftkey steals Ctrl and ignore the Fn...

Erhmm did you read what we have been debating in this thread since yesterday? Just asking... 😇

Moved the further Spontaneous reboot discussion over here

4.4.153-perf

Settings, About phone, Android Version, Kernel version.

Hmm, to me laptop associates with clamshells, like the Cosmo. But retractable is a good word... Does anyone recall what Nokia called them back in time?

Exactly. The word has to be descriptive, and it won't help to find a rarity deep in the English dictionary that no one understand. Maybe one should see it more as the keyboard dropping down than the display popping up? A jaw dropper perhaps... 😜 If one holds the display part and gives the back edge of the lower part a slight push with a third finger, i is actually a bit like a jaw dropping... Ideas have been thrown around in this thread after @Waxberry asking

Indeed it is confusing that the Pro1 is called a slider, as it does not slide... But I guess no one have come up with a good descriptive word. The movement reminds me of a dolphin jumping out of the waterr. So my least bad suggestion is "Flipper", that both relates "flipping" it open and the famous film, but people also associate flipping with opening a clamshell, so not good.... I would love it if someone had a good descriptive word for it.

Standard Android, see discussion in other threads. Just click The square, Click the icon of the app at the top, and select split (if the app supports it)

I'm not saying that it is a big issue, just some lost functionality, that might be missed. There might be other issues we do not know of. Say some app that requires an edge swipe to reach the very edge, or really close by. What is the maximum dead-zone that allows us to drag an icon from one screen to the next in various launchers? With Trebuchet you have to be really close before it moves over. So I like the software-bezel idea David mentioned with completely reducing the apparent display size. Optimally an option reducing either just touch or touch+display or perhaps even a

There are a few scrollbars with the slider only 20 pixels wide (Small Display size, even less with Smaller and 16 with Smallest). E.g. in the Settings, Apps, See all

Well you could follow the guide here, and do OTA from that (of course wiping everything). And then use David's model moving forward with future OTAs.

It would be a SUPER elegant solution if it after a failed attempt could ignore any touches until it has been untouched for say 2secs. This would mean that grabbing or holding it would only count as one single failed attempt....

Old, but not wooden legs (yet) 🤪 Haglöfs fleece soft shell.

I would say these two are the ones with most complains for stock. Though I personally have no really issues with either in a flip case. On the second I would suggest an OPTION that requires that we press Power, or slide out the keyboard, before the reader gets active. My personal favourite would be to have a magnet close to the second Hall sensor turn the display off. For me it does not need to turn on with the magnet moved away, as I will use the fingerprint sensor anyway. (Preferably some options, for the benefit of those with a flip-case with a window) ....Would

We are supposed to just hold the key long when at the home screen, but SwiftKey is messing with that on mine too... 😫 Force-stopping it (after re-enabling Gboard) make the short-cuts work again...

In all fairness, that would work close to equally well on a plain slider. Though the tilt DO give a small extra advantage if you rest your hand on say a table. I tried to take an image...

Indeed, slowly mowing forward again:

I skipped SFOS, but LineageOS Test7 seems good.

Nothing of the sort! Just saying that YES it has a learning curve, and YES it is worth learning. And as many other things once learned, it is easy. Nothing more, nothing less.... I even offered suggestions on alternative (though somewhat odd) ways to open it with practically zero learning curve. I personally can not play a violin, but I do not blame the violin-design for that, and I find it quite silly if people do....

...The BB Priv being an exception here, as the rails are so long compared to the distance between the rails.

The plain sliders have several issues you do not have with the superior mechanism, and it is related to the simplicity of the two-arms system. 1) The slides are almost impossible to keep clean, and you thus have to take a lot of care to avoid pocket debris and other dirt to get into the rails. 2) You have to press either almost exactly at the middle or use two thumbs evenly, unless the rails are totally clean and well lubricated 3) The display does not tilt, though some models offer an additional hinge to accomplish that. 4) as @VaZso pointed out the comlpexity means more error pron

You are aware that none of the one you mention have a similar mechanism, right? They deliberately chose this superior mechanism (previously used in several Nokia-models), despite that it unfortunately do have a learning curve. You just haven't learned to master it yet. Usually beginners also get angry at their bicycle until they master it, but once we do, we can not imagine how it was ever difficult. You could compare the ones you list with tricycles that everyone can operate (almost) immediately, and the mechanism on the Pro1 with a bicycle.