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Nah, I see it as yet another example of a small company with few employees, and lacking communication skills, that had to find out what their options were and how to communicate it, before they did. So if we say that half of these 60 (to take a pessimistic guess) would feel really bad about this, I guess FxTec could handle those individually somehow.

Well all (other) expenses are also high, so not that lucrative...🤑

Oh indeed, already bought a few as spares on AliExpress to have in stock should I ever need them. My point was the full assembly might not be that unreasonable priced, as the tag isolated could indicate. What the price for a qualified technician to swap a display would be would off course vary around the world, but here in Denmark I highly doubt I could have someone else do the swap for less than $100+shipping, So for those without the skills (or a skilled friend) the whole assembly could easily be an attractive alternative with lower risk. Not saying that anyone should do one

i'm not sure I understand you, who are you claiming to be dishonest, and why?

I bet the number produced for the S10, have at the least three zeroes extra, so not unexpected that they can do it cheaper... Anyway the $219 offer it is a bit more than the display. Also frame, narcissistic camera, sensors, pcb and not the least assembly, it all adds up. And the offer includes a battery too. So sure it is a lot of money to shell out if a display breaks, but I doubt they have a high profit margin on them.

But you might be able to find a local trustworthy repair shop, where you could bring the device and screen, and have them replace it. I do not know if FxTec got hem in stock, but try contacting them at support@fxtec.com, I would wish spare parts were more available, too, I personally would like to have a few things in store for the years to come.

How sad. If it is the display only. You can get displays that fits for the "Elephone U". e.g. this on AliExpress (just a random pick out of many)

Sadly it is not 'just' a delay, they simply can not get the CPU they already had confirmed orders for, so they were cheated, and had to redesign for a different Qualcomm CPU. There is a larger thread on this, and I will merge your thred into it..

But can you give an alternative? Remember this is crowdfunding. So if they get cheated, we as the investors in the project get cheated, but these good guys does not just fold, but say, hey we can give you something close for what is left..

I'm totally with you. Sure these guys made some beginners faults and was perhaps easier to cheat than more experienced guys would have been. But I'm absolutely 100% sure these er good guys with no bad intents what so ever.

Well almost "and we were informed last month that it can no longer be purchased from our suppliers" taken by the letter they are talking suppliers in plural, so it is unlikely they are referring to Qualcomm directly. And frankly I doubt a company as huge as Qualcomm would risk its reputation by taking money and not deliver or refund. Bad publicity for trifles (in their book)

It is sad indeed, and sure there is a risk of it all collapsing. That is the risk we took when we supported a crowdfunded project. I for one would rather have the Pro1X I perked for with a 662, than just lost my money. Even at their best will they would hardly have the cash floating around to refund all, if they already ordered and paid various parts And even if they technically could use a 730 with the same antennas and shell, would the majority of us be ready to pay more to cover the losses of them being cheated? I think that currently they would be lucky to break even with it delivere

As said earlier these might not be the two real alternatives, I would guess 662 or no Pro1 X at all

That is how I read it too.

That is a generous offer 👍 , unfortunately I'm not close. .

Merged, not cluttering the forum with yet another thread on the same topic

This poll really only make sense if you assume that they have nor purchased/ordered parts for the Pro1X already. IF they have not, it make sense. IF they have, who is going to pay if they are to ditch it? My guess is it would lead to a fold, so it is more like: 662 or no device at all. You are assuming they are buying directly from Qualcomm. It might also be an intermediary party that is the nasty culprit here. Please do not overlook the "FURTHER" so August 2021+9 would be about May 2022... Interesting thought, but I doubt they have the

Indeed. Those that want a strong gaming device should not go for a Pro1, and even less for the Pro1X now. But I for one would hardly notice... The only real 'chip upgrade' I felt when I went from the BB Priv, was in the Android Market doing updates. It took 'forever' on the Priv, but is much smoother on a Pro1 (and would most likely be even faster on a 885 device) But I do not know how the usage patterns looks for the typical Pro1 user.

Yes it looks that way - and with the Corona messing things up, Who knows what unforseen things that can make it even later. If they need new certification, that can be slow .

It is sad indeed, but what are they to do, if the chips are no longer available? " we were informed last month that it can no longer be purchased from our suppliers, despite having paid for the components back in December when our campaign officially ended." Sure I would also love to see it with say a 885 - but it is not going to happen.... So they found the least bad they could refit into the same shell is 662, and so bi it. Yes it is a somewhat slower chip but on the other hand it is supported by QC a few year further ahead. So it have Pros and Cons. Is it worth more or less? I h

Sadly I think you have a very good point there. Whatever promises they get may be broken in a jiffy if the factory get a more voluminous costumer placing an order, And most could not care less if a small customer like FxTec get angry being cheated.

In the majority of the world you get negative interests putting any money in the bank these days, so I would not count on it...

If it benefits some, I will continue to do so. Would just avoid polluting the thread if no one really cared *LOL*

Just to clarify further. We could all choose to either get a full refund, or a voucher for a $100 discount on the upcoming phone. The second option was thus especially interesting for those of us that supported the Mod early on. If I remember right we paid about $60, so a rather good deal, even if it took quite a while before we got our devices.

(lineage-17.1-20210208-nightly-pro1-signed.zip on February 5 security patch installed smoothly using adb sideload) As things upgrade smoothly constantly, I will stop posting this, unless others experience issues.