Polaris 423 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tim6263 said: I'm afraid three months plus now does not look like "short order" they've had plenty of time to 'come clean' with us ... just seems to me like, "It starts to look like very poor management of the whole project...", and ever more reason, sadly, to distrust any dates they proffer - to the point of giving up & seeking a refund. Much as I truly do Love the concept, I simply cannot afford to throw away £660 😪 By "short order" I meant f(x)tec got in over their heads very early on and haven't recovered from it yet. NOT that they were only in deep water for a short time period. I don't see how you are throwing away £660. I have personally witnessed a different company manufacture newly designed electronic devices to be shipped worldwide. I can promise you that everything that has happened with f(x)tec is par for the course! I agree they should have handled communication better than they have, and it comes across like they are being dishonest. However, I don't believe there is any dishonesty here; instead, it's more that they were really excited about, and very hopeful for, what they were involved in, and what was about to come. Combined with not having any prior experience, and the knowledge needed, to understand that this kind of manufacturing (1) never goes as planned, and (2) there are a ton of unforeseen events that will need to play out (many with solutions that will need to be found). Let's stop and take a look at what is actually happening here... Essentially two guys decided they were going to bring a new kind of hi-tech gizmo to market with worldwide distribution. I say new here because there hasn't been a good landscape (keyboard) QWERTY phone since the Droid 4 was released back in 2012. Additionally the Pro1 is not just a mere copy of Moto's Droids with newer internals. Everything about it, but the concept itself is new. Please ruminate on this for a minute (or two, three, or four). Again, two guys worked diligently to get a smart phone designed that ended up with a new kind of cell phone being produced and made available to the public via worldwide distribution. This is no simple task! Think about how daunting it would be if you grabbed one of your buddies and attempted something like what they are doing here! Do you think you could pull off something like this? Then add into the mix that they originally claimed the first phones would be in customer's hands in July 2019. They didn't meet that date (which I could have told them back in July 2018 (notice the 8 ) that it wasn't going to happen, but, again, I have prior experience, they didn't/don't. So what actually happened? Instead of getting the first phones in customer's hands by July of this year, they the first phones in customer's hands in November of the same year. I can promise you that THIS IS DAMN GOOD for what they undertook!! To quote a line from one of my wife's favorite movies, "It's six months. It's nothing. It's a hockey season!" Clearly, this seems like an eternity to those of you who believed, *like f(x)tec themselves did*, you would have your phones back in July. I also understand that it's very frustrating to be promised something (time and time again) and it not come to fruition. I can only reiterate that (1) I agree the communication on their end has been poor, and (2) if you speak with anyone knowledgeable about large scale manufacturing of newly designed hi-tech devices they will tell you that, for a first attempt, a six month delay is nothing to worry about because it's common, standard, normal, and will happen no matter how hard one tries to prevent it from occurring. As I have said before, I really believe the best thing to do is understand what's actually taking place here, then calm down, relax, breathe, and expect the phone to arrive sometime, say 2nd quarter of 2020. Then be pleasantly surprised if it shows up before then (which I believe it will, but for many it will, most likely be, 1st quarter of 2020 by the time it's actually in your hands). Edited December 4, 2019 by Polaris VaZso's comment below inspired a minor edit. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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