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As i just ran into trouble while applying the screen protector that came with the Pro1, i would like to discuss a safe way to do it. There where no instructions included with my protector. Since there are many different types of protective films, first of all it helps to know that the one supplied is of the variety consisting of 3 layers, 2 protective layers sandwiching a very thin rubbery actual protective film that wraps around the curved screen when all is done. Had i know that, i would have not tried to peel that tiny white sticker off the upper protective layer which i assumed to be

As I understand it, batches 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 were on the ship. However, the phones which float back up to the surface will be returned to Hong Kong for redistribution via alternate means. Although this will considerably delay the phones getting to you, there's nothing to worry about because they are still on track for Christmas delivery. 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉 Sorry I couldn't resist. 😈

I just hope the Pro2 has a flat screen with a proper bezel like the Droid 3 (but not hexile, please....I never minded it, but others hated it) so this is all a non-issue. Curved screens are pandering to the type of people who don't buy this category of device anyway. It was IMO a poor choice, but it may have come down to what was quality and available at a reasonable cost and with good availability.

I feel very much the same way. And rather than seeing them as competitors as such, I see it as variety, and that is the most important thing. Different people, different use cases, different needs&wishes. And thus different devices best suiting those. And frankly I see more potential Cosmo users that could use a Pro1 instead, than the other way round. Had they had a double hinge for bending over and no secondary screen, then they would have targeted an audience that want/like a hard shell protected device and a landscape keyboard device (plus a slab) in one. I could have bee

On the forum here and a few other sources I learned that the Pro1 uses "system-as-root" for the stock rom which seems partly self explanatory to a linux guy and a quick search does tell me approximately what it means. There's also talk of it being an "A/B device" which also appears to be about the partition table (and not really the device since we can run different operating systems :-), and that appears to be needed for seamless updates. But I am still left wondering what does it all mean exactly and why it is chosen to be so? System-as-root seems to have a downside being that we can no

Yes, buy a screen protector made for Elephone U Pro.

Have noticed some new users active on the forum, figured it was time to bump this. 36 users online and 104 offline right now. There is a chat room that welcomes random chat on any topic (including pro1), plus other rooms dedicated to just pro1 topics. Occasionally a useful or interesting message is 'pinned' in these rooms, so others can see what they might have missed. You can run it straight from a web browser, or get a dedicated app/client for many OS/devices.

Yes, that is a big benefit of the A/B design. Another is that you can fully use the phone while the update is happening, without rebooting, since the files aren't in use on the other partition. When you are ready to switch to the new version, you can reboot at a time that makes sense for you, and come back up on the other partition.

By the way, and I should have posted this first... Thank you tdm for all your hard work in getting LOS to work on the Pro1. I'm interested in a Pro1, but will only use it when a custom ROM is available. Thus, I have been patiently waiting for this to come to fruition. Might very well be time to place an order as it appears I'll get it by Christmas (-JUST KIDDING! On the Christmas part, not kidding on placing an order).

I was explaining my reasoning TO you, not ABOUT you. However, being confusing is sort of a specialty of mine, and in a forum where everyone rather shouts at once, well, being confusing is especially easy. :O No apology needed; it was a simple misunderstanding. No harm done and no hard feelings.

maybe someone who uses a smartwatch and bluetooth headset and keeps it in a backback/briefcase/purse, for the occasional time they need a terminal/computer when they didn't expect it but happy to have it? It seems cool, but I don't want one myself, I prefer a decent sized laptop (17" w/full-size keyboard) and a small keyboard smartphone (5.25-5.5" Pro²).

I would like to say that i no longer worry about when will my pro 1 will be shipped. its been too long and i dont see any point to ask because whatever reply i get from fx tec never turned out to be the case. i have been promised several times a date and it passed. i guess there are reasons and problems they are facing that has caused delay. after all fx tec is doing business and their best interest is to ship and sell. but i wish they could be more open about it. and i dont see the point anymore to discuss it in this forum because its not helpful either. i will just say i dont expec

I'm still lurking these forums because I'm genuinely interested in the Pro1 and I do want it to succeed. But seeing the same game playing out of the vague words of the last official communications being picked apart, and guesses being made and re-made... I can't tell you how much better I feel having cancelled. Seriously, I remember the wonderings of the last few months and I'm very relieved to no longer feel like that. I can be 100% certain about whether or not I'll be getting a Pro1 this year, and that feels strangely ok.

I am pleased to announce test builds for LineageOS 16.0. Please note this thread is for test builds. These builds are not necessarily stable or suitable for daily use. You can find the build(s) and detailed installation instructions here: Lineage on FxTec Pro1 Test Builds Please report any issues here and I will do my best to fix them. Thanks!

I joined the backing for the f(X)tec pro1 shortly after backing the "Cosmo communicator" https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator This phone is available now for me and I received mine a day or so back! Here is a brief first impressions write up: The keyboard is really nice to type on on a desk, however as a result this device is cumbersome to use as a phone. (Pasted from a different thread - updates afterwards) It's weird how much it bothers me that there is no large front display, because I've previously owned loads of clamshells (pretty much a

In EDL mode the device waits to receive an executable signed with the correct key. The common use for this mode is to load and run a 'firehose' low-level flashing tool. If you are interested in learning more, I recommend this article from Aleph Security.

Mobile data should be fixed now. If anyone has SailfishOS already installed, please update packages by doing: zypper ref zypper update Newly CI built image should not need this, but it will take some time to finish and get first post updated.

All other phones that I've had that is the easy way to install TWRP, and TWRP is the new safe space... Or am I mistaken and it's another partition that normally overwritten with TWRP?

Thanks for the clarification. It would have been more clever if it was the same partition BUT with two directory-trees! So the running version just saw some space gobbled in a RO directory while new files were added. In the other tree existing files conflicting were logically moved into a reserved RO space when new versions were added. This way you would only be 'wasting' space for the files that differs and done cleverly you might even share the part of the directory that relates to non-system files. ... You could even allow for keeping more than two versions, with minimal waste... Of co

Very cool! I have millions of strands of copper wire over here and very steady hands. 😀👍

Yes. Any OTG adapter/hub should work for USB mouse; bluetooth mouse also works.

Sure, it's definitely possible, as it could be done entirely in software, but I do question whether or not it would be usable. Can we get an adapter to plug in a real mouse? LOL

I own an OQO but didn't want to carry that plus a phone. Being able to be a meh phone, and /just/ about being able to squash into a pocket* is quite valuable compared to a laptop that would require a bag or for me to have to carry around. *I said before it doesn't fit in my pocket, but technically it fits in by roughly 95%. I wear blokes jeans, I need to make sure my belt is tight because the phone is so heavy! I wouldn't trust its safety whilst cycling.

Rather than the "GPD pocket" I would consider something like this type. Add: Exists in more than one variant, see e.g. this review.

I feel the same. If I would feel a real use case for me, I would buy both (the same like I have also pre-ordered PinePhone). ...and as of F(x)tec, if their quality is the same what I saw and it remains high quality, I will buy further phones from them when they have successor of this form factor.

Talk about competing though...

I also feel they're for a different use case or perhaps different type of user, I think majority of people would think that way... Competitor does come to mind as a term regardless for anyone else selling a phone but i could certainly imagine owning both a Cosmo and Pro1 for different time of the day, although I would probably first consider something the likes of a GPD pocket as competition for Cosmo.

I saw Cosmo Communicator earlier and I would have been bought (I mean pre-order) it if the idea of Pro1 would not existed... ...but I find Pro1 much more suitable for me (as a nearly perfect device). I saw earlier advertisements of Cosmo and found it a bit too large - it is an interesting project anyway, but it seems to be somewhere between a phone and a laptop and its use case for me is missing. Maybe if I would travel a lot by plane or other transports then it may be relatively convenient but I think it is also true of Pro1 especially if a power bank is nearby. Another interestin

I was thinking about this topic again... Would it be possible to program the touchscreen as a touchpad in Android or a desktop OS? That way you could use a cursor in a desktop OS or games in emulators with swiping over the touchscreen. I'm not talking about the exact position of your finger but controlling a cursor with the movement only. Don't blame me, I myself am not sure if this is a good idea either, but it should be possible, right?

It's called EDL, also sometimes called "deep flash". This is a protocol baked into the device boot ROM (real ROM -- read only memory). The factory uses this to flash the device from scratch. I have access to it.

I simply don't get why they did not give it a double hinge, so it could 'bend over' Yoga-style, as more serious laptops do now. They could then ditch the secondary screen, and save size and weight. Had they done that, I most likely would have been interested.

I have used the method on other devices, so would almost certainly work here as well.

I applied vinyl stickers to some car once and the trick they showed me is to use Windex or some other window cleaner instead of water. i was able to adjust the vinyl after applying and used a creditcard to squeeze it out from under the sticker. It left no bubbles and the Windex dissolved quickly. It might work on a phone as well, but I never tried it.

I think you're talking about anonim001, who said 10.08, which would be the tenth of August in certain notations like in the EU. They also say "paid after a few days", so October is unlikely. And considering some of the terms they use, like €, I think it's highly likely they're from the EU. So that answers that there were EU pre-orders included.

To allow dual boot, i assume.

So in other words, the hardware is common, but to get the software I'd need.....a connection. :)

I'm almost certain that they stated that they are send by air. Ships are way too slow. I guess they might change to ships when they got enough stock in their warehouses, to save some money.

Believe it or not, actually I have come across people that prefers these horrible touchpads over real mice. For those it could be interesting. And for use at some random remote location borrowing a display to show something, it would simplify to not have to consider a real mouse also.

Well, that's the thing. If we talk about 7" laptops, those wouldn't be much bigger than current phones. And you can achieve the same functionality of a phone with a desktop OS nowadays. Calls and internet are possible, communication apps offer desktop interfaces or programs, so there isn't too much to miss. Battery management will be a thing of course, but there should be ways to keep notifications with minimum battery usage. That's what we are aiming for with desktop systems on phones: more functionality while having the functionality of a phone.

Preorder 19xxx. Paid on 4th August. No email yet.

Having not yet placed an order and having an order number at 30xxx (or whatever), I'm not planning on holding my breath! I still use a Droid4 (yes, I can already hear all the gasps) so as long as it's available with a reasonably stable custom ROM by Jan 2021 (when we'll be screwed into using, errr... I mean transitioned over to, VoLTE) I've got a whole year. Heh! [Feet up as I enjoy typing this on my ancient, but still very usable, tactile QWERTY keyboard]

Well it depends what you mean. The protocols are qcom proprietary. I have the specs because I worked on this stuff at cyngn. The factory package for the Pro1 has been shared to developers by FxTec. As for EDL cables, they should not be needed unless something goes very wrong. The Pro1 boot loader enters EDL if you hold both volume keys when you power it on. And in a pinch you can McGuyver it with a small strand of copper wire and a steady hand.

The past has taught me to avoid Mediatek like it was an illness, I'm confident the SD835 is better. No numbers though so take my words with about half a bag of salt 😂. I somewhat agree, but with how cheap & cheerful it is I may buy one eventually as an extra phone (not as pre-order tho, I'll await the reviews). What bothers me is the humongous size, mediatek SoC and lack of a control key and some other keys probably. But it is a keyboard phone in 2019 (or i guess 2020, iirc they are only planning to ship early next year, could be mistaken) so it gets a shitload of cool points still

That Droid 4 was seeing an E7 or N950 when N900 wasn't home...

I don't like those shutter sounds anyway, I may feel the lack of it as a feature instead of bug. Is it really necessary? (However, there may be regulations which say it is necessary, just I feel that sound is a noise.)

Yesterdays update QXW1000_EEA_05500.19Q401_20191111-1505 fixed the following bugs: - touch screen freeze issue (double tap to wake temporarily removed) - 3G issue - HDMI Output - Camera vignette effect - setting item display issues with test OTA package Remaining bugs for me after first update are: - missing/mismapped chars on QWERTZ \ µ ~ € ° ' ? - Checking all sensors with AIDA64 shows updating results for 2 seconds than crashes the whole device to reboot. - Battery capacity still reported at 1000mAh (in e.g. Ampere Meter Pro) - No shutter sound in Snapdragon Camera app

I wanted this phone and I'm glad that they are trying to fix a hardware problem they found for you guys. But I can't continue to trust what they say. One day everything is on track two days later there is something that will cause another delay. For the most part the problems don't sound like things that fxtec didn't know about when they sent the previous message. Other messages are at best intentionally vague. On a different thread someone openly admits they didn't pay till Oct and they have their stock assignment email. That's definitely not how I interpreted the email they sent prior to the

I was watching my inbox after netman announced he got an email for stock assignement. I did get an email from F(x)tec: That's not the stock assignment I was hoping for (I have an order number around #103xx, no coupon, and it's for the EU), but it's definitely the kind of email update I've been wanting F(x)tec to start sending whenever there's a delay. The second bullet point actually goes further than I expected, by telling us why there has been a delay.

HDMI out being tested with the new firmware due to be pushed over the air shortly. Should work with any USB-C to HDMI adapter. * The blurring is because we were scrolling at the time. Image is crystal clear in person.