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Alright things are moving right along now... I've got the touch screen margin/deadzone implemented and a nice little settings preference for it. The display margin will not happen until later, if at all. That's much more difficult to implement and intrusive to the system (it will likely require a reboot to take effect). I'll be adding a keyboard layout setting (qwerty/qwertz) next. Then I'll see what I can do with the fingerprint reader mitigations.

Yes it would be nice with a formalised channel for this. Currently we have two threads: One for discussing and testing possible bugs and the like, and one that was supposed to have confirmed bugs... But they are not 'clean', so hard to find anything in them. There is an unofficial bug-list here that is more easy to read. But a more formalised system would certainly be to everyone's benefit....

As a preorderer I would easily pay 100€ more for no accessories but the phone itself.

This is very interesting! Are you able to reproduce the issue? If you can then maybe Pro1 is rebooting in specific situation when there is no network or the network is changing. Reboots seems to happen during traveling. It is common that there are areas without network when you are driving between cities. Similar thing might happen when you put phone to metal locker which blocks network (like a Faraday cage).

No. 1: Full TWRP support No. 2: ExFAT support for large sdcards (generally 64gb+) No. 3: to take a time out @tdm after all that hard work/support 🙂

I think it's safe to say that we're by-and-large the 'tinkering' types that enjoy spending time on an unrestricted/unlocked device even if it makes no rational sense. I like having something different. It makes me proud even if it's behind the times and absolutely flawed lol.

I suggest reading up on what Magisk does and why. With great power comes great responsibility and it doesn't sound like you exactly knew what you were doing. You can get by fine with rooting stock, but modifying the system partition for real will break delta updates as OTAs are, so even if they'd allow it, it would not be a great idea.

Poking around a bit in the touchscreen driver. Adding code for the side dead zones is trivial and it works here. Hooking it up to a sysfs node and adding a setting item in the settings app will be a bit more work, but very doable. Not sure about the fingerprint reader yet. I may implement two options: one to only activate the reader when the screen is not off and one to limit the amount of time between reads. I personally like the latter -- I love to be able to unlock the device without pressing any physical keys. But I'm not really sure exactly how to implement either of them

https://github.com/tdm/android_device_fxtec_pro1/issues/31

There is an add-on su package for Lineage. See the extras download page.

I've been working on that two weeks ago (didn't have time after that), I was still stuck at the building stage with caf sources. I'll try it this weekend without caf, maybe that's my issue.

The Tasker Profile "Edge Block" created by @elvissteinjr works really well to solve the problem with typing the top number row on the physical keyboard. You don't even have to really know how to use Tasker. Lol. I don't. Just import by tapping the Profile and scenes tabs and away you go. Has advantages over Edge Null as explained in the post, especially the not getting kicked out by Android.

For me, I have tried to check what bands my carriers support but it does not seem to be an easy task. It seems both of them currently support only B3, B7 and B20 for LTE. The provider which I don't use for data has B1 and B8 bands for 3G. The other service provider which I have 4G and mobile data, only supports B1 for 3G. Both of them have 2G as fallback (at 900/1800 MHz). Looking at coverage map, the carrier I use also for data has good coverage for 4G but fair coverage for 3G and practically full coverage at 2G. The other carrier has fair coverage for 4G but good coverage f

Now having caught up a bit 😄 "What is the maximum dead-zone that allows us to drag an icon from one screen to the next in various launchers? With Trebuchet you have to be really close before it moves over." The Microsoft launcher also has this problem of needing to be very close to the edge you have to be on the curve for it to trigger the other screen.

Erhmm did you read what we have been debating in this thread since yesterday? Just asking... 😇

With this would it be possible to have the screen size generally reduced so the curved parts are not used for display at all?

My Pro1 restarts itself when I put it into a metal locker. WiFi connected, both SIMs inserted.

4.4.153-perf

Did you mean that Night Sight is slow? The whole idea behind it is to take sevaral shots and combine them to one picture. There are some algorithms that can produce geat pictures in low light. It is the "magic" behind Gcam.

Agree with both of you. Funny in that I have never referred to my phones as sliders (although they have been, or pop-up, or flip and spin, lol). I just always referred to them as tactile, or physical, landscape keyboard phones. This was perfectly descriptive, and never became confusing in conversation. Speaking to someone who isn't familiar with a Pro1 they wouldn't have a clue what a clack phone, or a clacker is and I would be afraid it would just introduce more confusion.

I take it that he is referring to a traditional slider where the screen isn't angled, but is parallel with the keyboard (a good example is my Droid 4).

I'm not saying that it is a big issue, just some lost functionality, that might be missed. There might be other issues we do not know of. Say some app that requires an edge swipe to reach the very edge, or really close by. What is the maximum dead-zone that allows us to drag an icon from one screen to the next in various launchers? With Trebuchet you have to be really close before it moves over. So I like the software-bezel idea David mentioned with completely reducing the apparent display size. Optimally an option reducing either just touch or touch+display or perhaps even a

The other reason is for aesthetics, so someone who doesn't want to see content on a curved display can have a flat display. Related to that, would be square corners, not rounded. Aesthetics are probably way down on the priority list, but just mentioning for the future. I have no idea if you have control over things like this, but the pull down menu that has all the system shortcuts in it does not fit the screen when in landscape mode with the default settings for screen size and font size. The edit and settings buttons are off screen and can barely be accessed by tapping the

You can scroll with a vertical swipe anywhere on the screen for that. The scroll bar is just a visual indicator of your position in the list. I couldn't imagine requiring the user to hit that tiny scroll bar with their finger.

I don't use LOS yet, but just contributing ideas. With the dead zones, an option to change the physical resolution that is reported to apps would also be nice. That way, edge UI elements that a null solution would make inactive can be solved for. Another to add to the list is double tap on screen to wake it. I can't remember if that is already available.

Holy crap, I finally got a2dp working. That took waaaaaaay too long, but it's working now. Next build will have it, probably tomorrow since I am a bit busy today and there's some other stuff I want to fix/add also.

When I first saw there was going to be a tilt, not straight slider, I was concerned the angle would be annoying when holding the device. I've found that isn't the case, and the angle makes it better for reading when placed on a table (like while eating alone or something). I've got much better with opening than December, but I still feel this will remain an ongoing complaint by reviewers and new users. And if there were competition, and someone walked into a phone store w/o any prior experience and compared pro¹ to any other regular slider, they'd buy the regular slider, cuz pro¹ so d

Is it via this forum, the Support button on the main website or by sending an email to info@fxtec.com? How will I know if it has been received/acknowledged? How will I know that it is being investigated? How will I know that or when it will be fixed? Thanks.

I guess I could post stuff on github myself if its important, I'll do that next time.

I'm not quite ready to jump to Lineage yet waiting until it is nearer Official, but I did send tdm another couple of beers for his hard work again and plan to keep doing so. 🍺

On the flip side, one nice thing about SwiftKey is that it interacts with the physical keyboard, giving you suggestions as you type that you can tap on and write faster. I guess kinda losing out either way...

This is exactly how I feel. For me this isn't a real big deal as I have trained myself to stay away from the screen edges. The only time it's still a potential issue is when the keyboard is open, I'm typing quickly, and using the top row of (number) keys. Even then it's no more than a minor issue for me.

I've been using *#*#4636#*#* to check some network settings.

What if It is in California now but grew up in Alaska, having experienced temperatures closer to absolute zero than those in Minnesota ever will?

Yep. Not ragging on the Pro1, necessarily, but it really is crazy, that as an industry, we worked our way up to these fabulous flat screens and square corners and then took a step backwards with rounded screens and rounded corners! LOL There is *no* video content, that I'm aware of, that is shot with rounded corners! LOL To the point about the short edges being different than the long edges, it would be nice if we could specify each of the 4 edges independently and have it know that we mean the same physical edges when it is rotated (or not, if one wants to have options). I'm speaking

Yeah, as you said, and others as well, I'm just drawing a distinction in the world of landscape keyboard phones between those that slide and those that have hinge mechanisms. My Relay 4G was a slider. The two halves slide on rails. The Pro1 has its hinge mechanism, where the top part pivots up and away from the bottom part. My T-Mobile G2 (HTC Desire Z) has hinges too, but it lies flat after it pivots up, instead of the angle of the Pro1. As I was playing with it just now, I realized that it is like a mini-Pro1 in that the sound is similar. It isn't quiet like the slider. It is easi

Indeed it is confusing that the Pro1 is called a slider, as it does not slide... But I guess no one have come up with a good descriptive word. The movement reminds me of a dolphin jumping out of the waterr. So my least bad suggestion is "Flipper", that both relates "flipping" it open and the famous film, but people also associate flipping with opening a clamshell, so not good.... I would love it if someone had a good descriptive word for it.

I've never done it, since I have been on older androids. I thought it was something unique to the Pro1. Although, now that I mention it, I might have seen it on a Samsung tablet once. I have no idea what The Square is, so I'll have to Google it. EDIT: Oh, *that* square. The overview/task switcher virtual button.

Standard Android, see discussion in other threads. Just click The square, Click the icon of the app at the top, and select split (if the app supports it)

Hey, are we wearing the same pull-over? 😄 Probably not. Mine's L.L. Bean.

@Polaris If the LED's in that app don't work, it also has an option to use the camera flash. Maybe overkill but maybe a better option for you than nothing if it works?

You are aware that none of the one you mention have a similar mechanism, right? They deliberately chose this superior mechanism (previously used in several Nokia-models), despite that it unfortunately do have a learning curve. You just haven't learned to master it yet. Usually beginners also get angry at their bicycle until they master it, but once we do, we can not imagine how it was ever difficult. You could compare the ones you list with tricycles that everyone can operate (almost) immediately, and the mechanism on the Pro1 with a bicycle.

Go into your system settings wifi screen where it shows all the access point names. Scroll below those and there is a submenu for wifi preferences. In there is an option to automatically turn wifi back on under certain conditions.

I agree on that. People have different hand size, and more or less dry skin, so how much each is affected is quite different, so would be nice if we could compensate it. My personal favourite would be the most primitive approach. Present the API with a reduced 'physical' size of the display, So people can select as wide bezels as they need, that are displayed black, and independent for the two sides. This might require a boot after changing the bezel size, but that would be acceptable in my book. Having it happening in the HAL-layer, would mean that there are no programs that would ever k

Though this technically works, no 5) should be taken with more than a pinch of salt, as this comes at a cost&risk - that for some will be acceptable and for others not. 5a) Reduced functionality. Depending on the selected "Display size" & "Font size" (under normal Settings, Display, Advanced) you will have troubles accessing the standard vertical ellipsis top right menu selector in many apps, unless you reduce the border size - and reducing it obviously make the app less useful also. The scroll-bar slider in e.g. the Apps list or your browser will also be inaccessible,

just tad north of Boston, MA. USA Been running on SailfishOS now, and don't see myself going back to Android anytime soon (unless something is majorly broke).

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Only played Another World so far. Keyboard support is not that great but good enough to make it a little more playable.

@shani You will get used to the mechanism it in a short time and hopefully you will change your mind. If you have ever used Nokia N97 (Mini) E7 N950 you will probably this is a "feature" instead of a design flaw. I think the only this that can be mis-leading is calling it a "slider" with the fact that it uses a lift-turn hinge. "Slider" would mis-lead user to think it slides like Droid 4 and can push from middle of the screen. (Instead of lifting / pushing the edge) Maybe we could invent a new word calling this?

I use the app "Battery charge limit" from XDA, which allows you to limit the battery percentage. I usually set it to 85% except if I'm going for holidays or so. I think it could already work with the Pro1, but maybe we need to wait (and ask) for the support. According to the magnetic chargers: I use a couple of mobile devices for work and have not yet found a reliable charger that does also charge quickly. And I'm not even talking about quickcharge or data transfer. They all are flimsy, have a stupid LED (and some further electronics to prevent burning them out) or break after