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Hi everyone, A brief, honest informal update as promised. The US/APAC shipment from the 2nd batch has now been fulfilled, and some of you should have already been contacted by your couriers to confirm your delivery date. In the meantime, the 1st US batch is still stuck somewhere in a US customs office sorting hub awaiting to be shipped back to our main warehouse in Hong Kong. Customers from the 2nd US batch will be contacted by FedEx for their customs payment, as we have now decided to ship devices directly from Hong Kong in an effort to save time and avoid further foreign importer c

I was late with the update yesterday, we've been quite busy lately :). I am noting your questions, and I'll make an informal update on the news thread today.

Thank you so much for the consideration. I won't take donations for this project myself but please do donate to Lineage, the EFF, or your favorite open source project.

That you are creating an EDL package for the rest of us to recover our bricks is simply amazing! I'm so grateful! Thank you! With friends like you, this project cannot fail!

So I have spent most of the day today trying to get TWRP to decrypt FBE. It has been quite an adventure, as my only prior experience with TWRP decrypt has been FDE on Android 7.0 which is quite simple to support. FBE on Android 9.0 requires a lot of infrastructure that I had not known about. I'm not done yet. Hope to have it working in the next couple of days. I'm also preparing an EDL package for user consumption. This will allow anyone to un-brick their device and restore the stock factory image no matter how badly they damage the software. But don't go erasing your entire

Since this seems all like a lot of work, may I ask you if you have some kind of donation intake? Or would it help if we use the general lineage donation stuff?

Well, the dates have changed, but the principle has not, and now some of us have our devices! Soon we all shall have them! Also, no touchscreen typing here LOL; I daily drive a Droid4, and use a PRIV occasionally in the evening. Physical keyboards for the win! 🙂

Hahah I totally mentioned the wrong Eric 😂

Hurray! A great update from @eric!!

It's pretty hard to fail worse than Microsoft Kin.

Get a refund is not an option. I may order a second one, depending on the size of my Christmas bonus this year. I desperately wish to own this device, and for F(x)tec to succeed, and people buying units is how that occurs. EDIT: I also recently learned that my Droid 4 will work for another year, so all is well for now!

Jeez you guys are jonesing for this thing. I'm only an hour away by road from London and I make it a rule to never go there unless I'm being paid ... Now Munich on the other hand - I've had to work quite hard over the years to prevent several clients from figuring out they didn't really need to pay me extra to go there

If there are between a 1/10th and a 1/5th of phones shipping each week and there are only 2 weeks left until Christmas, then it's not pessimistic to say *the majority* of pre-orders won't be completed by Xmas, it's simple maths. Whilst it would be lovely and exciting to get it before xmas, I simply want this phone! I will get it when I get it. I spent money on the Cosmo over 1yr before getting that device. (The next part aimed at F(x)tec) Of course with thousands of well paid engineers here at Google UK's hq, it would definitely be in F(x)tec's benefit to have me walking aroun

Got mine too - fedex 1224703xxxxx Seems they're shipping US orders direct from HK too.... mine's still at the airport over there according to tracking. email:

This might be disappointing news to some (not me), BUT the forthright communication is much appreciated by all (including me)! It's long overdue and much needed. Thank you.

Tried fast charging also, works just fine.

Sooooo.... I did something shameful.... I trolled the twitter account and made a seething complaint under an image... I caved and became a petulant 13 year old! (On the bonus I received a reply where they said they will look into my order.) @Erik has come back to us in the forums again and again and is, so obviously, doing all he can. And like everyone else I can not deny I want this phone on a materialistic level (I will not die without it although on occasions I feel it). However, now there are phones being shipped on a regular basis I feel positive. Yes they are not in large

I think you meant to say "justice for delivering a form factor that no one else would dare to bet on", as in "their just reward". I think Eske explained difference between "miscalculations" and "lies", don't be a drama queen. I can assure you, drop in sales on stuff that will not come before the holidays is happening across the board, people are spending their money on gifts

I am sincerely hoping your future telling skills suck. haha 🤣

Also, you can always check this thread:

Why on earth did you flash Windows to that poor little device?! SO cruel!!

I hardly think there would not be enough money for the goodness if they would earn less money from ads. There is enough money for that, just not for shareholders. And that is the point, it always has to go up, yeah they may not sell the data now. But what if the shareholders are not happy any more because google hit the grow-limit? What if the ad economy breaks down? P.S. The point with china is worthless. They tried hard to do a specialized engine for china, only the engineers are not in for it. As any big company they happily help the regime because china is a big market

Of course. 🙂

I had a pallet full of drywall delivered today, it was a struggle and we destroyed the plants on the driveway by crashing it on there from a crane-truck-thing :).

Brave Browser offers exactly what you're suggesting. You really should investigate it.

Sixaxis, unfortunately, their estimates on delivery have not proven to be accurate, no matter where they come from, website, email, video, forum post, etc. The latest news said the latest preorders are not likely to make it before Christmas, and you are one of the later ones. Some of us have been waiting years, since first backing the project that started this in 2017. So if you need a phone by Dec 24, you may wish to reconsider. It seems like you might be Russian, so in that case, since Christmas comes later for you anyway, you could still possibly maybe have a chance of getting it in t

Got a tracking # for 12/10 This is the most progress I have had so far. I'm in the US, It's moving.

Thank you all for the feedback! Team is working on the fix for the keyboard unresponsive issue. It's quite random and cannot replicate easily. But we will do out best and solve ASAP.

And if it does, can you have an esim, a normal sim, and a microSD card at the same time?

Good to hear in the other topic that finally also US customers are going to receive their phones soon.

I dont know why Fx Tec need to refund a tax applied by US customs. it will be a loss for FX Tec. cant we pay a bit more to help FX Tec?

Indeed! Thank you @Erik

Five eyes comes to mind.....

I just want to make a quick statement: The US government can and does get access to my data without a warrant since I am not a US citizen. No amount of technological safeguards can stop that. Look up programs such as PRISM that systematically gather tons and tons of data on non-US citizens, and there are likely many more like it that have popped up since PRISM.

Here here!

I think the most common themes here are that the Pro2 should have a smaller size available and have dual SIM plus simultaneous uSD and not drop any of the other features, such as the 1/8" jack. Personally I would love it if the Pro2 came in the same size as the Droid 3, which in most ways was my favorite phone of all time. If it weren't for Gingerbread and 512MB (mostly 512MB, because that was so limiting for custom ROMs) I'd probably still be using it. Given the choice, I'd have picked a slightly smaller Pro over what is available now. I'm sure I'll love the Pro1 but if I could get a Pro2mini

The real dream is the phone 😉 A bit slow to come sure and the one forum thread has gone pitchforks and torches, it's still a startup xD. But I'm still excited.

Well, if the third batch is shipping this week, there are only 7 weeks and that's the third week in January, Sure, more things can happen, but Eric is hoping not, as are we all. I think the thing that is more important than how many weeks is simply that they continue to ship weekly batches and show regular progress.

Probably safe to say that till now near enough all units shipped have been IGG coupon orders. So think if this weeks shipment as being the 1st 10th... Any which way, it's still guessing, & really not worth bothering about! All that really counts from now on is either accepting the unknown length of wait for a tracking number .. or get a refund. That's it.

I'm happy with the current dual SIM setup; however, as a user of a phone that's almost eight years old now (Droid 4), it's nice when the manufacturers pack in the latest and greatest so that the devices can withstand the passing of time. Also, I've never been one to just get a new phone strictly because a newer model is out (although this might be because there haven't been many newer physical keyboard phones released recently, and my stance might change with the release of the Pro2, lol).

I would certainly prefer not to use them, but if the alternative are the horrific pest of ads, and not a way to buy them away, well then I take the risk...

Thanks for the insight. Another view would be: No collection, no risk of loosing it. wilfully or accidentally. An old saying goes: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. In the US almost anyone can get a gun, most likely primarily bought with good intentions for protection, and big surprise a lot of malicious stuff follows by that. In other countries were guns are harder to get at, big surprise: Fewer are shot. And don't get me wrong, a lot of evil happens all over the world, so it is by far limited to guns. The price of easy access to lethal weapons are dead people

Large mailbox, and strong postman needed..... 😜

Exactly my point. In three years we do not care if we in 2019 made a tiny ½TB dedicated to some purpose. And a Pro2 or 3 are likely to come with eSim (or something new) so the sim we got in 2019 will not work with 6G anyway 😇😜

Thanks a lot for this. I think that a lot of people that were asking for more information wanted info like this. Sure, it's not necessarily as good as "your device is shipping now" or something, but it is info and like you said the bigger picture is positive. This also to me seems like a pretty realistic estimation, compared to some of the previous information we had gotten.

From what I understand, banks do use it sometimes, but so does Netflix and lots of enterprise apps.

Thanks Erik, looks like things might be stabilizing and slowly ramping up. Looking at the margins you mention in relation to the number of weeks before Christmas, hitting general availability before Christmas may or may not happen. I hope that pans out in a way that works for FxTec, in terms of not missing (too much) of the holiday sales season.

I believe stock has some changes to the orientation settings to allow landscape in more places. But I am not quite sure exactly where or how yet, as I haven't gotten that far. As you noticed, the virtual keyboard does not pop up by default. On stock it does. I believe this is a preference setting in the device tree. You can manually activate it just as you noted, by pressing the keyboard icon in the navbar and telling it to always show the virtual keyboard. I have not tried any non-English layouts and, to be honest, I would not know how they should behave. But I ca

I had a DIY QWERTY phone in the past. The length of the device was 138.1 mm. It was made of iPhone 6 bluetooth keyboard case and Xiaomi Mi 4C. I think that 140 mm was very close to max that I was able to handle comfortable. But I need to test Pro1 before I can make my final judgment. Here is a short video of my DIY QWERTY phone. Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/Pbvpo