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I think I posted this before. But I've never used another message board/forum where editing had a time limit. Sure, if someone changes something, it may mess up the other messages, but so what? instead of having 5 irrevelevant posts, it'll have 1 relevant post and 4 perhaps confusing outdated posts, but the relevant post shows it was edited on a certain date and the others have a date anyway, and if they wanted to, they coulda quoted the first message to show what they're replying to at the time they replied to it, to avoid people possibly thinking they posted something irrelevant in the pa

New year, same old thread 😊

Indeed @Craig, you are a good observer! Andyou are right. Well lets say there is one guy at this forum, who ordered qwertz and going to use qwerty layout. But this means at least one guy. Whether one is not at the forum does not mean there is noone else outside. And I can understand it. 99.9% people will use qwertz cz layout. But more experienced users (eg coders etc) are using qwerty cz layout. Its easier to use for code and they still have the advantage of our language specific characters when actualy not coding, but having fun for example. The fact why they would order a physical qwertz ins

Well I used the BB Priv for quite a while sort of with similar feelings. Far from perfect for me with the keyboard in the wrong direction, but it was definitely the least bad option available. The Pro1 is MUCH closer to what I want. And most of the things I have to complain about could be fixed with firmware. e.g. I have since spring suggested them to offer the users an OPTION that 'simply' made a user selectable logical display. Call it software-bezels, This would allow some users to use the full edge screen, and others to have a flat square slightly lesser display area. People with

I'm using ideas from that link, yes. VERY helpful! But was traveling from 17th to the end of the year, so would not get back to receive shipment any sooner. I stuck a piece of closed cell foam cushion on the bottom of the phone temporarily until I got back. Not that hard to imagine, pic below of a perfectly decent 2 piece Body Glove case on a slider keyboard phone, that I know for a fact can take multiple 4' drops onto concrete and phone is unscathed. Given that we can get the Huawei and other cases to work, the bottom part is feasible. The top would be trickier design to

Though you of course technically are right that a more complex process is more expensive. The strange thing is that curved displays have become so widespread that they actually sell cheaper. I guess simply due to being produced in larger quanta.

I think the others above have been making this point, but while I understand this thinking (I also remember JFK), I think smartphones have hit the same CPU plateau computers hit in the mid 2000s. Succeeding generations of chips get faster on the benchmarks, but in real life, performance isn't getting that much better and, in fact, battery consumption may be getting worse for what little performance benefit you get. I don't think there is a lot that an 835 SD CPU and 6 Gb won't be able to handle for some time to come. For the same reason, I don't even care if I have the latest version of And

I can absolutely follow you, BUT it much depends on whether you can feel reasonably certain that you can buy another in a couple of years or not. I mean the approach makes a lot of sense for a device like the Pro1 where we do not know if/when there will be another. Had it come in several 'flavours' I would for sure have bought the one with top specs. But If I was in the market for an ordinary slab, I would most likely be looking at say yesteryears flagship, As I would feel certain that I would have upgraded to something different before it even got close to it's theoretical end of life, S

It works - at least currently I am using a similar adapter (a cheaper one bought at Aliexpress).

Ah, you mean the airport? 😇🤣

This is just semantics. I meant those retailers you're also talking about. I'm sorry I didn't overly qualify it to suit your standards, I thought it was clear I wasn't suddenly talking about different stores that haven't been mentioned before. True, but that was merely a side analogy to indicate that promises don't make things okay. Not my main point. I agree that the problem was that they decided that promise was to be taking preference over their other promises. Again, not the case. You're misrepresenting the situation by omitting information and saying it's only because of a

Yes the old firehose was verified to work. I updated the main package. Please download a fresh copy and it should work.

I'm just an observer, who sees one guy said 99.99% of Czech ppls use qwertz. But one prominent (in the keyboard phone community at least) Czech said he has always used qwerty. So, perhaps if that kinda buy bought a qwertz variant locally but wanted to use qwerty layout on it, that kinda person would be glad it was included in FinQwerty.

It would be good to also have a separate setting for ringtone of SIM2. Currently both SIM1 and SIM2 share the same ringtone which is not really good.

I've always considered rounded screens without bezels an unnecessary expense that provides little or no added functionality, an increased screen damage liability (edge impact is added to the things that can easily break the screen), a more expensive repair if that happens, and a complication in finding a hard case to prevent that from happening if one's lifestyle makes that protection prudent. Or to put it more simply, I have no use for them. Rounded screens add expense, and increase the risk of damage and the cost of repair, while providing zero functional benefit. That being said,

"last word" - your prerogative, your opinion, ok; mine is to differ with you: https://community.fxtec.com/topic/2596-on-the-production-status/?do=findComment&comment=38853 esp. with "aggressively envious" which is also just your opinion, & for me, unnecessarily judgmental. I have more than voiced an opinion: I have withdrawn my financial support, because, for me, their business model has clearly changed. If they wish to support resellers over long suffering, till now loyal, pre order customers: fine, that's F(x) prerogative; but that was sufficient cause for me to withdraw

It is MUCH more important NOT to use quick/fast charging in daily usage. Use an old say 0.5A charger, or a USB output from a pc or radio. It will be able to charge the Pro1 while we sleep, but does it slowly, and thus with marginally heating, and that really matters for the overall battery life. Use the quick/fast charging when in need only. It is like eating junk food. Occasional usage is not an issue - but don't do it every day. I have a lot on charging on my blog, e.g. start here

Hi all. There is a toppic for apps, that works fine with landscape mode. Lets proceed also with apps in general and try to help each other for some hints or to review usefull apps. Feel free to ask and answer. This is not about landscape-specific, so I guess it won't be profitable to merge that together. So at the beginning my case is about phone automation. While using Symbian phone, I have app called BestProfiles (or similar). This app can set some phone features related to specific situations - time, location, both together etc. For example when it is 10PM, it turns off Bletooth

This was done earlier: https://community.fxtec.com/topic/2357-age-group-of-users-for-pro1/ and ages 40+ won, but the age groups weren't equal sized. So let's try it again. Note usernames are private.

...maybe i know where is problem...it is not about cpu/chipset performance...it is about phone price vs hw specs. BUT...i mean that 90% of users cannot see any difference between qc 835 and 855 with 6GB RAM...maybe it is visible on antutu and maybe will be littlebit less battery consumption...but thats all. On 835 you can still play latest games, record 4k videos atc. QUESTION IS...for what is needed really last chipset with XYZ RAM? 95% of users have phone only for facebuk, mesenger, wacap and maybe for camera...thats all. ...AND security ?...yesss that is user problem SOO ony

I am currently using a laptop released in about 2012 / 2013 - it still works well, not laggy at all and at least it has better quality than almost every modern laptops. So time is not necessarily means something is unusable, especially if hardware and build quality is good and is open enough to not depend only on manufacturer. Anyway, manufacturers sold much weaker configurations also one or two years ago. I think Pro1 is a hardware which may have long life also if manufacturer decides to focus on something else but we need them to sell enough phones to have enough users who suppor

It has to do with the immutable fact that software developers will always exploit hardware to its maximum capabilities; so at some point, every chip no longer performs as well in terms of user experience. It may be counting to one just as many times every second as it did when it was young, but it's starting to fall behind software that's pushing it to count faster. That's why my policy with electronics that I can't easily upgrade post-purchase is to buy bleeding-edge. It delays the onset of obsolescence. A phone with a 2-year-old chip will obsolesce two years sooner, meaning I'm paying f

@Craig There is also this: https://www.simore.com/en/dual-sim-and-micro-sd-card-simultaneously-hybrid-dualsim-slot-x-extender-2.html – no idea whether it would work with the Pro1, though.

I'd guess their cheapest LTE capable pre-paid phone. 😉

Yeah, somehow I missed the 4k and 3k ones... My bad.

For automation, what comes to my mind for Android is Tasker. (Didn't do much with it myself yet, though.)

As well as the man. I miss the man. The airport, not so much (although it beats LGA). Richard

I got an e-mail shortly after the phone, where they told they would be sending he earphones shortly after (I replied they should save the money, as I most likely would never use them, no matter how cool they look)

I'll preface this by copying the warning on the page I'm linking: So with that out of the way, has anybody tried https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/acc It seems to have a bunch of functions to extend battery life, but it does require root via Magisk. One specific function that seems to work on a very limited number of devices is to limit the charging current via applyOnPlug=usb/current_max:MICRO_AMPS . This seems to accomplish what most people here would want, without needing to use a specific charger.

It's hard to say really. Some people have. The poll "have you got your Pro1" had 19 people respond that they had. The thread "what's the highest serial number in the wild" found #158 to be the highest. The total number of pre-orders is not known but the most consistent and reasoned estimates on here put it somewhere between two and three thousand. It's unknown how great an impact cancellations have had on this number. It seems that the allocation of hardware to the 'queue' is impossible to predict. This is down to the different numbers of QWERTY/Z orders, and due to at least one

Hi there, I placed an preorder in August and cancelled it last month. When i was cancelling, they told me that my order should be shipped before Christmas. Christmas was passed 1-2 weeks already. However, i found that lots of poeple still discuss the status of the order. I would like to ask whether the guy who placed pre-order before August have still not received their device??

This is no better than the way people have done it already, it's still not using the CDMA bands the device supports. Verizon needs to activate Pro¹ with all the radios including 2G/3G, not just 4G.

I was just looking at the Cosmo Communicator, & saw this: https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/car-mount-kit?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=3878141526110&pr_ref_pid=3934665015390&pr_seq=uniform I do like the look of that keyboard...

QWERTY, US, with coupon, Order# 12xxx, also still nothing.

So their size disqualifies them as retailers? Forgive me for not understanding and discussing what seems reasonable. Retailers were prioritzed over IGG backers. "First come, first served" is a basic rule of business. More so in this situation. No one has displayed any envy. Just pointing out the lack of good business practices. Which as a customer, I think is legitimate. First time companies make mistakes. It would help if they took responsibility, apologized and said this will not happen again moving forward. I love this tech. This is an opportunity for them.

I don't see a reasonable explanation, but this might be because their communication is awful, and a textbook example of "what not to do." There might be one, like maybe most of the IGG ones are a certain keyboard layout phones and they didn't have enough of those. I have no idea, but, again, I agree with you about the lack of (seemingly) prioritizing IGG preorders (and I'm not a IGG backer).

I'm still in the "if it's not rooted, I don't use it" camp. LOS has the ability to turn on and off rooting with a switch (although some claim issues with using it, but I've only needed to once and it worked well). As far as the PRIV is concerned, no reason to feel stupid for selling it, I couldn't stand it and couldn't get rid of it fast enough! Then again, I was used to Motorola Droids and landscape physical keyboards, but still, as I see it, no sale of the PRIV could be considered premature.

That's simply incorrect. I have a QWERTY preorder with IGG coupon in EU and mine wasn't shipped.

Sad, but VERY true.

This topic was not really had much information about production status anyway. Instead, it seems like a general thread... also that is why it is so long...

@Spider-Dan thanks for the update!! ... I am much less nervous about ordering mine now 🙂 ... have you tried any msg'ing apps like hangouts for MMS replacement? Or reached out to their support system to see where the issue might be? I need to troubleshoot vicariously through you!! 🙂

Using two SIM cards and an SD card was never a feature of the device in the first place. Any problems that arise from your attempts to do so are entirely a result of your own actions. You're the one destroying SD cards, not the phone.

I agree, that is why I think the focus should be on people out of school and with some typing to do. And there was never a better time for that. Smartphone market is saturated and boring. Everybody is thirsty for something new. And there were never so much people in IT like now. A lot of these people are young. This should not be forgotten! However since I wish the prawn was a bit smaller (maybe 5.5") and had a flat screen I may be a dinosaur myself. But that is another topic 😄

Well not rigged, but not representative either 😉 It is great if the Pro1 can wind in a larger audience, than us that used keyboard phones a decade ago. Maybe we should try changing the "Why are you still using a hardware keyboard?" to "Why do you let do with a surrogate keyboard?" Or the silly aPple sheep strawman version "You are using a slab because you can not afford a keyboard phone". On a serious note, it is all about what we use our devices for. Those of us that enter a lot of text (for whatever reason) can benefit from a real keyboard. But for those where entering te

Yes, I've been typing 2019 robotically.. It'll be like this for the next 2 months.

Like most people on this forum, I'm a fan of phones with hardware keyboards. That's why I've co-funded the FxTec (then Livormorium) Keyboard Moto Mod IGG campaign back in 2017. The IGG campaign got postponed several times until it was cancelled altogether. Like most of the IGG supporters, the only thing I got in return to supporting the campaign financially was a promise. Promise from FxTec that I would be among the first to receive the QWERTY smartphone they plan on developing next. I have elected to take up on that promise and did not request a refund for the failed IGG campaign. When t

On the 11th Dec I requested a refund, after a number repeat requests, my money was eventually refunded 14 days later - one day before the bank said they would start a recovery procedure! ...So one of you lucky people may get a phone ahead of schedule 😉 If F(x)tec survives this farce, I may see you when the product goes retail and has a hard case. TTFN

@Doktor Oswaldo I am maintaining a list of network experiences on the clack. Unfortunately, due to limited time editing, I cannot update the top post to make it a list with everything currently known. Fortunately, @EskeRahn is very helpful, and has the power to paste in the updates I send him. It just seems like a clumsy, bothersome way to do it. I'd rather not bother him, but it is what it is.

Safetynet doesn't block you from downloading from playstore. Safeteynet is basically something an app can check status of when it's running. Doesn't affect installation. Playstore is blocking netflix download for our device for some reason. Usually that kinda thing happens when you have the wrong android version, or your device doesnt have some hardware the game needs, etc....

It's called EDL, also sometimes called "deep flash". This is a protocol baked into the device boot ROM (real ROM -- read only memory). The factory uses this to flash the device from scratch. I have access to it.