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As someone who never had a keyboard smartphone before the Pro1, I would say it very much matters what you are used to. The QWERTY layout on the Pro1 might be shifted a bit, but it’s nothing different to simply getting a new keyboard for your PC. There always will be a learning curve. I find the Pro1’s keyboard much more functional than the compared devices above, particularly for the spacing on the Pro1 keyboard. Give it a week, and you’ll see how much faster and accurate you are, especially in the technical tasks such as using terminal. I will not accept disputes on this subject at all,

note that FinQwerty now have released a new version, with additional and extended layouts. Including US-International for both qwertY and qwertZ https://android.onse.fi/finqwerty/#pro1

I've created a small tutorial that might help you to get around some quirks you might have with your F(x) Tec Pro1. Let me know what you think about it and if you have further suggestions which I can add to it :) It's available both in German and English and you can find it here: https://www.dragonbox.de/index.php?fc=module&module=ybc_blog&controller=blog&id_post=9

With a little testing, Anssi (the Finqwerty dev) made a version that preserves using Esc to wake the Pro1 but is also able to function as Esc. It will be in the next update. Another thing I love about this phone... it has great dev support now, and that will only increase in the future as more of these phones get out there.

I guess it all depends on what you want out of a keyboard and your hands. I find this a fabulous keyboard and I have hated every Blackberry I have ever had. BB keyboards are way too small to type on with any comfort or accuracy. Thank heavens we still have a few choices.

For others who may wonder, my experience here is different, must depend on your hands or so... I find the keyboard pretty comfortable in general after about a week of use. It's nicer than n900 to me and i have 0 issues using the number row without touching the screen, i'd have to try to activate them simultaneously. The only time i accidently touch the screen often is while opening the device, it can be tricky, but it seems to get easier with time. It does need more thumb movement than the last keyboard phone i used, a nokia e72, but there are many more keys and the device is more functional.

They put them on the curved edges. But since the curved edges distort what is displayed, you won't notice them. Joking.

For what its worth, I was the lucky person to win this phone. Locane has shipped the phone and with any luck it will arrive on Friday 😍 I am currently on a droid 4 under a verizon pay-as-you-go plan, and will be attempting to migrate my sim to the phone using a galaxy s5 as a mule. If there is interest in the community I can film the process

Thanks for the heads up. I have actually butchered cases about to make phones fit. My next project will be my Xperia X. I've got a Bluetooth Micro Keyboard on order that I plan to mate with it, so I'll have it to hand when I open the case. But as for the Pro1, I'm not finished yet. I'm planning on a trip to the nearest big city to scour the phone shops for bargain bin cases that might fit the bill. (Not really, I'm going just to flash the Pro1 off and annoy the hell outa them) 😂😂

Phone keyboard layouts always have been different from a PC keyboard layout... Their usage always has to be learned... And, as @Zamasu correctly mentioned, even an identical layout would imply a completely different usage if only for the use of your thumbs... I especially fail to see, by the way, how a tiny BlackBerry keyboard layout could be better than a full five-row layout like the Pro1's – except if all someone would ever want to type were letters. No numbers, no symbols... Besides, I used to have a PRIV and I really liked the mechanical construction of the keyboard, while my most si

I don't know of any other device I'll use that'll have a keyboard that I use with my thumbs. It's a completely different muscle memory. I don't have the Pro1 yet so I'm speculating, but I don't think the muscle memory will collide with regular keyboards. I didn't have any significant issue with the Desire Z even though that merged and moved some things around because of the small keyboard.

FinQWERTY has done it. Their proposed US qwerty map for pro1 qwertz is awesome. Even has dedicated slash key on the right 😉 Eske posted it in some random thread... The problem with using it that way, and the advantage of it, is that they remapped most everything besides letters. The y/z print mismatch is trivial and wouldn't affect me, but when the symbols dont match the print and they're not what you use every day and they're in non-standard locations, I can see that being annoying. If someone would make some really nice stickers that fit pro1 keys, then qwertz w/finqwerty would be

Oh wow, my Cosmo arrived weeks ago* and I've barely used it. For me it's far more useful to be able to type quietly lying on my back on the couch, than at a table with a laptop style keyboard. The Cosmo weighs a heck of a lot. I tested the pro1 at an event at the f(x)tec office, and immediately noticed the shifted keyboard issue. I figured I would just get used to it. I had no idea the qwertz keyboard wasn't shifted, I wonder what the option would be for some Tipp-Ex and a software keyboard remapper to make this qwerty. - Damion *apparently there are threads on Cosmo for

Hm. I don't really see a case where the information I asked about could lead to more panic than we already have on this forum. I think worst case scenario could be that every single device that was shipped until now was mentioned in this forum, what would mean batches are even a bit smaller than ps555s worst estimate. Not really a bummer. Or that it takes until June next year until preorders are completed. But I think most people would prefer a 'You will get your device in July' over a 'Oh it's not that long anymore we're working hard' every now and then. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

https://eskerahn.dk/?p=3620 and I got a new one too, bit the page is not updatet with this yet.

The QWERTY Keyboard is shifted relative to a regular PC keyboard, or relative to the number row - all the letters are one key over to the right. Thus they put a few non-letter keys to the left of the letters. The theory was to make it more comfortable to type letters. The reason some may not like it is cuz it' takes a little getting used to cuz keys arent exactly where you expect them to be.

Thanks for all the replies - the Pro 1 is sold. I took a chance on the Cosmo Communicator, hopefully it's more in line with what I want.

Ran into the non-responding keyboard. Restart solved it. I'm only bringing it up to point out that, having been spending a week putting the Pro 1 through it's paces and hitting this only once makes it a *very* infrequent issue, which means it's going to be damn hard to figure out. Have I mentioned what an amazing, premium phone this is. Nothing wrong with an 835 SOC, that's for sure!

Please note, this is not an official FxTec tool. It is my own creation. FxTec should not be expected to support this tool or any damage caused by its use. This tool will allow you to restore your Pro1 to a factory clean state no matter how badly it is messed up. You may use it to restore a "bricked" device or just load the latest firmware. You can find the software and detailed instructions here: Factory Restore for FxTec Pro1 Please report any issues here.

I'm starting this thread to list what I feel are some missing essential features in the stock version of Android. Not necessarily bugs, but things that are missing that would be great for FxTec to implement. Feel free to add others if you feel some essential feature is missing. #1 Sticky Modifiers. When shift/alt/ctrl/slantarrow is pressed then released, the next keypress should behave as if the modifier is still stuck down. Ideally the caps led would illuminate when shift is pressed (until next key is pressed). [Include a toggle in slider settings to disable if possible.] #2 W

That isn't the launcher. That's Pie. You can change it back to the old style in Settings->System->Gestures turn off swipe up on home.

It is somewhat funny (but please don't take this as an insult, it is not) how the community "rediscovers" why horizontal sliders like this (or maybe sliders in general) died out. From people selling this phone in a very public way to debating over reviews like this it kinda looks like history repeating itself :D It is not only that phones without sliding mechanisms and complicated keyboards are easier to produce and are (in some ways at least) more durable (or waterproof, etc) than those with them; it is also that the learning curve for a "candy bar" is basically nonexistent. Sure, you wi

Kinda funny seeing people comparing two biased reviews (android authority vs xda) and of course calling people names because someone said that Pro1 is not worth buying. Also, these are two separate reviews, one is for masses and second is for geeks(do you really expect "normal" people to care about LineageOS or SailfishOS at all?). Android Authority tells actually about some problems but there are things that are unfair or weird, like saying that hardware gives "janky" performance. For me so far everything feels excellent when it comes to performance. But there are still some valid p

To me it's a design flaw, with an easy fix. If they didn't use a curved screen, it'd be a non issue.

I would definitely try these steps and see if this manual config works:

That's exactly what I was counting on. Since the N97 I have also used the Samsung Relay and while it served me well for a couple of years (I still have it actually) I really missed the angled screen pop-out. These last few comments are really helping me stay patient as I wait for my order... Thanks guys!

as a N97 owner your muscle memory will kick in, and you can do the slightly odd arch from day one. It is the exact same logical mechanism

2020 is a leap year so 366 then 😋😋

If you'd like to sell it I'll happily buy it, or if anyone else is looking to sell theirs

I couldn't agree more about having choices and not liking the BB keyboards! I too find them way too small to comfortably type on and achieve any real accuracy and speed. I don't think I'll have any trouble acclimating to the Pro1, but only time will tell. I do know that speed and accuracy aren't a problem on my Droid 4 (which I'm using right now).

Thanks for explaining it. I appreciate that. I guess I've never used a phone that matches a PC keyboard exactly, so I've always adjusted my muscle memory for thumb typing vs my muscle memory for touch typing on a full sized keyboard. I do see the number shifted thing (and I think I remember that being mentioned in the past now), but I guess I don't type enough numbers in texting/instant messaging, emails, and online forums (my main uses for typing a lot of content, vs searching for things in google or minimal entry in other apps) where it seems like it would matter to me to glance at the ke

This percentage is sure, as sure as it can be any info from fxtec in official emails. Including resellers, maybe.

I think, "awful" is a very harsh word for some slight criticism. The keyboard shifting was known and a few people complain(ed) about it. But you will sute get used to it after a short while. And non-sticky keys (i.e. shift), curved screen and similar things are a shame but there will be workarounds by either FxTec or the community. If you are unhappy, just sell it. It will find a new owner in a short while. But there's not really a re<son to open a new thread for it. By the way, Cosmo Communicator is a very different phone. I really hope you looked into it before order

This is the first time, I realize, that there is a huge difference between QWERTZ and QWERTY (I immediately googled pictures and only QWERTY is shifted!) @Locane: sorry to hear, that you are not happy with the Pro1. Would you be so kind to tell us, what QWERTY/QWERTZ phones you did use and were happy with (the keyboard)? This could be really helpful to other people, considering to buy a pro1 (or waiting for it and considering alternatives).

It did work for applying immersive mode. But I don't think I'll be experimenting with any any more untested tweaks. What I did particularly that caused the crash was set it to only display 1 quicklaunch icon. My actual goal was zero, but saw that setting and decided to try just to see what it did... oops!

At one point, they did mention having to rework an entire batch due to yield loss (or something). So maybe, this one got it's serial number sticker, and then they realized there was light bleed and re-inspected all the outgoing units - found your unit had light bleed - then had to wait for next batch of screens to arrive after the whole new 3rd party inspection process - which appearntly took week(s) - before it got a new screen then shipped out - with the same back cover/serial. Just a random plausible theory.

So, the upshot of this thread is that the title is clickbait. They aren't ignoring anyone's refund request. 🙄

Just as an FYI: At 8:51AM today I sent an email to fxtec asking about a sales tax refund and what was the process. At 9:23AM today I got an email saying that my sales tax was refunded completely and attaching a receipt. So um... impressed and thank you.

I wouldn't base your buying decision off of the rantings of some tech journo. The people who write these articles are some of the most myopic and ignorant people that exist out there. I don't know why this is endemic to tech writers, but most of them can't seem to see 5 inches outside of their face. Let me sum up the entirety of what most tech journalists write about: "Golly gee! I only use my device for vapid consumption and ego validation on twit-face-gram-tok-gasm. There are people out there who don't spend the entirety of their lives posting needless updates about life in &l

Please pay attention if you plan to send it to your company address. Somehow the company name seems to get missing in the process. I am at least the second Person who had this issue. I advise you to inform UPS about your company name as soon as you get a TN.

Yeah. This isnt' a fast UI for doing a major remap. I'm thinking about doing slant arrow+number row to be F1-F12, and that'll take some time... I spoke with the author, he's going to implement a feature to import/export profiles, so that means we could share keymaps (and maybe edit it with a text editor!), but that's not likely til next summer. I think he's going to add in labels for our special keys shortly tho, so they dont just come up as blank ovals, which will be nice.

I also write to the support and I got pretty fast a reply. And my question is sorted.

Because that takes whatever discount they had to give the reseller straight out of F(x)tec's pocket? That's a bad thing right now, as we need them to have money to make more of these things. I'm glad @sequestris is such a good ambassador for these things now, because it looks like a lot of people are just greedy cutthroats who don't care about anything beyond instant gratification. She got 7 more people to lay down bucks and get in line. Whatta girl! ;) Someone has to help F(x)tec survive its fickle customers and grumpy suppliers! :'(

This is the android pie replacement for what was called the navigation cluster, it's very annoying but luckily you can turn it off. Go to settings->system->gestures->"swipe up on home button" and turn the only setting there off, then it will be normal :). I have no clue what they were thinking at google, but they made that and now almost every modern phone is like that by default.

I got mine. I can say my impression is the opposite of anonim001's. Will try to flash SFOS tonight.

Who is to say that they didn't pre-order these devices before yours?

Just be aware those instructions for enabling Unknown Sources don't apply anymore. Just download the apk. It will ask you to enable Unknown Sources for the specific app doing the installation. It is no longer a global setting. 🙂

Just to update that I received the phone on Tuesday, and am happily playing about with it. So far works as expected!

If Key Mapper can't automatically switch, Tasker and Secure Settings (a root app) can. Profile -> State -> Hardware -> Keyboard Out Task -> Secure Settings -> System+ -> Input Method -> Key Mapper keyboard add Exit Task -> Secure Settings -> System+ -> Input Method -> pick your normal keyboard.