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As someone who never had a keyboard smartphone before the Pro1, I would say it very much matters what you are used to. The QWERTY layout on the Pro1 might be shifted a bit, but it’s nothing different to simply getting a new keyboard for your PC. There always will be a learning curve. I find the Pro1’s keyboard much more functional than the compared devices above, particularly for the spacing on the Pro1 keyboard. Give it a week, and you’ll see how much faster and accurate you are, especially in the technical tasks such as using terminal. I will not accept disputes on this subject at all,

note that FinQwerty now have released a new version, with additional and extended layouts. Including US-International for both qwertY and qwertZ https://android.onse.fi/finqwerty/#pro1

I've created a small tutorial that might help you to get around some quirks you might have with your F(x) Tec Pro1. Let me know what you think about it and if you have further suggestions which I can add to it :) It's available both in German and English and you can find it here: https://www.dragonbox.de/index.php?fc=module&module=ybc_blog&controller=blog&id_post=9

With a little testing, Anssi (the Finqwerty dev) made a version that preserves using Esc to wake the Pro1 but is also able to function as Esc. It will be in the next update. Another thing I love about this phone... it has great dev support now, and that will only increase in the future as more of these phones get out there.

I guess it all depends on what you want out of a keyboard and your hands. I find this a fabulous keyboard and I have hated every Blackberry I have ever had. BB keyboards are way too small to type on with any comfort or accuracy. Thank heavens we still have a few choices.

For others who may wonder, my experience here is different, must depend on your hands or so... I find the keyboard pretty comfortable in general after about a week of use. It's nicer than n900 to me and i have 0 issues using the number row without touching the screen, i'd have to try to activate them simultaneously. The only time i accidently touch the screen often is while opening the device, it can be tricky, but it seems to get easier with time. It does need more thumb movement than the last keyboard phone i used, a nokia e72, but there are many more keys and the device is more functional.

They put them on the curved edges. But since the curved edges distort what is displayed, you won't notice them. Joking.

For what its worth, I was the lucky person to win this phone. Locane has shipped the phone and with any luck it will arrive on Friday 😍 I am currently on a droid 4 under a verizon pay-as-you-go plan, and will be attempting to migrate my sim to the phone using a galaxy s5 as a mule. If there is interest in the community I can film the process

Thanks for the heads up. I have actually butchered cases about to make phones fit. My next project will be my Xperia X. I've got a Bluetooth Micro Keyboard on order that I plan to mate with it, so I'll have it to hand when I open the case. But as for the Pro1, I'm not finished yet. I'm planning on a trip to the nearest big city to scour the phone shops for bargain bin cases that might fit the bill. (Not really, I'm going just to flash the Pro1 off and annoy the hell outa them) 😂😂

Phone keyboard layouts always have been different from a PC keyboard layout... Their usage always has to be learned... And, as @Zamasu correctly mentioned, even an identical layout would imply a completely different usage if only for the use of your thumbs... I especially fail to see, by the way, how a tiny BlackBerry keyboard layout could be better than a full five-row layout like the Pro1's – except if all someone would ever want to type were letters. No numbers, no symbols... Besides, I used to have a PRIV and I really liked the mechanical construction of the keyboard, while my most si

I don't know of any other device I'll use that'll have a keyboard that I use with my thumbs. It's a completely different muscle memory. I don't have the Pro1 yet so I'm speculating, but I don't think the muscle memory will collide with regular keyboards. I didn't have any significant issue with the Desire Z even though that merged and moved some things around because of the small keyboard.

FinQWERTY has done it. Their proposed US qwerty map for pro1 qwertz is awesome. Even has dedicated slash key on the right 😉 Eske posted it in some random thread... The problem with using it that way, and the advantage of it, is that they remapped most everything besides letters. The y/z print mismatch is trivial and wouldn't affect me, but when the symbols dont match the print and they're not what you use every day and they're in non-standard locations, I can see that being annoying. If someone would make some really nice stickers that fit pro1 keys, then qwertz w/finqwerty would be

Oh wow, my Cosmo arrived weeks ago* and I've barely used it. For me it's far more useful to be able to type quietly lying on my back on the couch, than at a table with a laptop style keyboard. The Cosmo weighs a heck of a lot. I tested the pro1 at an event at the f(x)tec office, and immediately noticed the shifted keyboard issue. I figured I would just get used to it. I had no idea the qwertz keyboard wasn't shifted, I wonder what the option would be for some Tipp-Ex and a software keyboard remapper to make this qwerty. - Damion *apparently there are threads on Cosmo for

Hm. I don't really see a case where the information I asked about could lead to more panic than we already have on this forum. I think worst case scenario could be that every single device that was shipped until now was mentioned in this forum, what would mean batches are even a bit smaller than ps555s worst estimate. Not really a bummer. Or that it takes until June next year until preorders are completed. But I think most people would prefer a 'You will get your device in July' over a 'Oh it's not that long anymore we're working hard' every now and then. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

https://eskerahn.dk/?p=3620 and I got a new one too, bit the page is not updatet with this yet.

The QWERTY Keyboard is shifted relative to a regular PC keyboard, or relative to the number row - all the letters are one key over to the right. Thus they put a few non-letter keys to the left of the letters. The theory was to make it more comfortable to type letters. The reason some may not like it is cuz it' takes a little getting used to cuz keys arent exactly where you expect them to be.

Thanks for all the replies - the Pro 1 is sold. I took a chance on the Cosmo Communicator, hopefully it's more in line with what I want.

Ran into the non-responding keyboard. Restart solved it. I'm only bringing it up to point out that, having been spending a week putting the Pro 1 through it's paces and hitting this only once makes it a *very* infrequent issue, which means it's going to be damn hard to figure out. Have I mentioned what an amazing, premium phone this is. Nothing wrong with an 835 SOC, that's for sure!

That isn't the launcher. That's Pie. You can change it back to the old style in Settings->System->Gestures turn off swipe up on home.

Yes. It's not blinking as fluently and gradually as say that LED of one of the Samsung Galaxy smartphones do. But it does not annoy me. It also blinks in mixed colors (all at once) if I say got a mail and a sms. So indeed not perfect, but imo okay and possibly fixable via software. What annoys me more is the screen. It looks quite nice at half+ brightness, but has a terrible green tone to it if I go under 50 percent brightnes. But I can live with it.

None. 🙂

I think you'd need a custom launcher for that one, to my knowledge it isn't available in stock Android or with a stock launcher.

I couldn't agree more about having choices and not liking the BB keyboards! I too find them way too small to comfortably type on and achieve any real accuracy and speed. I don't think I'll have any trouble acclimating to the Pro1, but only time will tell. I do know that speed and accuracy aren't a problem on my Droid 4 (which I'm using right now).

@rtuz2th It doesn't appear as though you'll ever, at least officially, get the info you are requesting. I'm not happy with F(x)tec's lack of communication (to put it mildly as it just leads to unwarranted expectations and a large amount of disappointment), but I don't think there is anything nefarious taking place. That said, it has been shown, by people who know these things that there is currently approximately 2,500 actual devices that have been ordered (I believe it's somewhere between 2,500 and 3,000, but not more than 3,000). So that answers that. Then you can look at the folks posti

Thanks for explaining about the tab/caps/shift situation. I don't have a caps lock on my Relay 4G. The shift doubles as that with a double tap. I'll have to wait and see if the left shift is a problem for me. The right shift is exactly where it is on my Relay 4G (to the right of the up arrow). The left shift has more of a gap between the letters and the shift key, but it is also at the far left (same as on a PC keyboard or my Relay 4G), so if my brain is reaching far left, then it won't matter. If my brain is reaching one key over, then it might take some getting used to. Also, I ha

Hi Community, I've been one of those guys just scrolling through the forum everyday but never posted anything, but now this all has become so absurd that I can't remain silent. I backed the IndieGoGo Campaign on 20.05.2017 (Backer #13**), I remember scrolling through the comments everyday to find all 'Miniupdates' that were only posted in the IGG comments. Now, two years later, I find myself still daily scrolling through a forum thread that will hit the 100 pages mark very soon to find all 'Miniupdates' only posted there. I don't wanna start about Twitter, talk.maemo.org and all that stuff.

@Val: OK. I have to specify: I have calculated with 50 - 100 delivered devices for non-IGG-preorders. With the 0,5% info this may be to high. (and I counted devices not orders, so I count the retailer devices as 40-90 devices not as 2-4 orders) What do you think are the boundary values? Here is a shorter form for the speculated values IGG preordered devices min - max IGG delivered devices min - max preordered devices min - max (including the IGG) total delivered devices min -max (including the IGG) So my values from the last po

At least one other user has regretted selling the phone... 30 minutes probably isn't enough time to get the feel for something you'll use daily for years. Maybe give it another shot?

Ubu chroot on Pro¹ running SFOS: Thanks Preflex and TheKit!

No customer claimed having received anything from batch 3, as far as I know. The one at the warehouse on 2019-12-13 was batch 2. Batch 3 does seem like it started shipping before the 2019-12-11 [1][2 (3rd paragraph)]. It is also seemingly starting to ship this week [3]. If the combination of the two previous sentences makes no sense to you, don't worry, it does not to me either. Could be that the devices from the first batch 3 were the ones sent to resellers. Hopefully not, because the way this was presented would make that more than a little dishonest. Whether batches are still goin

Does anyone know if the phones the worriers at US customs confiscated made it back yet? This represents a device pool which could be deployed to customers as soon as it is received, if it has not yet been. In the grand scheme of things, this is a small matter, but I would like to know if Uncle Sam gave them back their stuff yet.

I'm glad @sequestris has a sense of humor 😉

...i mean that it is problem of all amoled displays...default color is black - led(in pixel) is off...and really dark grey is problem.it is step between led on and off. On tft, retina etc displays is never visible black due technology...because under these displays is always powered on backlight foil and all is "grey". soo if you want really black you need amoled...but not too good greyscale....if you want approx good grayscale then you must buy tft,stn,retina etc phone. AND i am not sure...fx use pentile matrix RGBW?

He lost me with: (By the way, that's "horizontal slider") On the hinge... it takes a bit of training to finally get it, but you will, and once you do you will be grateful because the reason it is initially so hard to do is because a) the hinge is very strong and b)there is absolutely no wobble or looseness in the hinge. This is an industrial strength hinge that isn't going to wear out. I now can open it one handed. I love the hinge!!!!! Let me assure you that the Android Authority review does not get it It's not perfect (what is), but F(x) Tec get most everything that

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I also write to the support and I got pretty fast a reply. And my question is sorted.

I am now going to close this thread as there is no point in bumping it additionally. Click the link below for my explanation.

That's not true. A partner retailer in Switzerland expected stock by the end of this month as everyone else did, but they're not getting stock until the end of January - again, like everyone else. They have been accepting pre-orders, but they are not shipping anything until general availability by the end of January. Given the previous misinformation, we completely understand, and in a way, expect your doubts about your orders, and us in general. However, as mentioned before, retailers such as Clove and Dragonbox have been in discussions with us since MWC before any of the pre-orders

I can confirm that they replied to my question and that I didn't have time to confirm the cancellation so far. So they ARE processing the requests for sure.

Shhh......if they keep bumping to the end, maybe they'll get their device. :)

Oh, it just occurred to me that the same issues I'm having with the vendor image are probably causing TWRP data decrypt to fail. So I'm pretty confident that once the vendor image works, I can build a TWRP with working data decrypt.

If you don't want to root the phone ever, etc, then follow this:

Got mine! From a retailer, but since it was about as cheap as fxtec was selling them - I don't know why I shouldn't have jumped ships. As far as I could figure out, it works (with android). Gonna take me a while to figure everything out. German retailer, about 720 Euro, next-day-delivery. Thank you, you know who you are! Edit: it's quite thick, but the sound and keyboard are awesome.

I can certainly see dead zones as a useful feature. I tried to do it with overscan setting, but in the end gave up cuz it doesn't work in app apps, for example nova launcher handles it wrong. Dead Zone Control Allow user to customize each of the four edges. Ideally two settings for each border - how many pixels to disable completely (no display), and how many to disable touch response.

🏆 2141 Winner: @esme

It is pretty standard ensures SLA's are met for activity with a problem.

Yes, but the problem is: I think they planned to deliver the preorders first, then to the retailers. So they made a few deals with a few smaller retailers a while ago that they will have units available shortly before christmas. That didn't work out, unfortunately. So in order to NOT risk having to pay a retailer back (which are quite huge sums of money), they decided to do it like this. It's doubt it's because they want to piss anyone of. And yes, even if demand is high that won't help if they might need to pay back huge sums of money NOW. I'm pretty sure this company is working t

Thank you for that additional information. Good to know 🙂 I just thought it would be the safest source for the app.

I just crossed out #2, cuz I accidentally discovered, Esc will wake it up. Ideally it would be any key, but now that I know which key, that's fine too.