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EU order with Indiegogo coupon. You'll be hearing from me if necessary. I've been waiting for keyboard hardware from these guys for a good while now. I'm a patient man.

From the quantity and quality of posts on the various general whining threads here and on t.m.o, I would have put money on the winning category being "~12"

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On other side, video shows you that it's not some faceless corporation, and that co-founders are super passionate about the product and heavily involved in the whole manufacturing/testing/shipping process.

I am one of the Indiegogo preorderers. I have received my payment request on the 1st of August at 9:56AM and payed it two minutes later (this is the arrival of my receipt mail). When I receive my unit, I will write a message on this forum (so when I will arrive to home and I hope I will not travel that day). Theoretically, that info may be good for some estimations...

I have worked at a Nokia factory 8 years ago and the assembly was far from a fully automated process at the time. The mainboard manufacturing and testing and the final testing was mostly automated but that's about it. Most of the assembly was done by humans, a lot of them.

As a 60+, I find it interesting that you had 5 year intervals and then 40+ 😂

The phone is finally coming together. But there is a lot of critics again. That's why I thought a quick reminder to have a look at the overall picture may be a help. This whole project is a great achievement and the price feels not that high any more, since we know a worker has 4-5 hours to assemble the phone. Still I understand everyone complaining. Again there is a delay and they tried to sell it as "on track" to us. Communication is still suboptimal at best. But if you have a look at the video you should see what we all tend to forget. These guys are engineers not sales peo

I know it's an assumption on my part but I think this is the same video that Erik mentioned last week, and that it was created last week. That would also be a reason why Lianchen didn't mention shipping with the specific information Erik has provided us with in the meantime. My guess is that the news he (Erik) has gave us these last couple of days has gotten ahead of the video Lianchen made. Nevertheless I think the video is very cool to see. It is nice to hear that Fxtec is putting so much effort into the production and the finetuning of the product to make it a quality device. If they

I really don't get this whole "mid-range" phone stuff. Phones have hit the same technology innovation plateau that computers hit in 2005, such that Flagships up the gimmicks more than they up the innovation. In 2019, a mid-range phone is fine, except most mid-range phones have 6xx Snapdragons rather than an 835 and underwhelming screens and minimum internal memory. My wife's Pixel 2XL with the same SOC handles everything just fine. And for the kinds of productivity which presumably would make a slider keyboard attractive, the specs on this baby are serious overkill. This is a phone that mi

The communication style of F(x)tec is similar to some of our eager but naive junior engineers who try very hard to please. They spend a lot of hours fixing problems they didn't anticipate but say nothing about it at the time because they think they will be able to finish in time but they never do.

The 30+ people:

I think they are very very busy getting things out these day, so might be slow in replying. If there are any specific measurements or photos you want me to take, I could try on the "Final Sample" .

When I am staring at hose Elephone screen protectors...

Hello everyone this is Liangchen, co-founder of Fx Technology, and last time you saw my colleage Adrian so this is my turn now. So today I'm at factory and I just want to make sure the product is in the right quality and to deliver to you by this week. So umm, also we have already got a few, a few cartons of boxes of product ready and we are doing others as much as we can. So um there is a lot of parts with the assembly is required by hand make; it's more complicated than other products, especially like the force of the slider here or the feeling of the keyboard, so it takes quite a long time

Even if this is scam, Liangchen bought me. I can be scammed with pleasure 😄 You know, thats only one single device with slider and quantity of devices is too low for specially designated machines only for this model.

Just got that email as well and am personally glad that the main concern is getting a quality phone out of the door.

Hmm,,,, I've had a unit in my hands at the fxtec office in London, it's an elaborate scam if so. Manufacturing in Shenzhen can be very hit and miss (I've been involved in the past with chinese vendors) so I'm not surprised at some of the delays particularly if a bigger customer wants that production line. Given the latest video says 4-5 hours of assembly time I can understand some of the pressures here and customs can always throw a spanner in the works. I'm slightly unhappy that money was taken with such a gap to shipping but meh that's in line with a long tradition of hi-tech in th

The video happened:

It will be interesting to know the age groups of users of this Keyboard Phone. Generally older people maybe more interested as they can relate to this technology, as they may have either used it before or seen others use them. I do not expect many from the younger generation to buy this. But I would love to be proved wrong!

I think what a lot of people tend to forget, is that the younguns all had QWERTY feature phones while smartphones were still in their infancy. 😉

Hi, Thank You for the update-video ! I read all along this thread and I think, that you should direct your attention towards the good news: - The phone is beeng produced - It has an awsome keyboard - and it will arrive before Christmas ! So why don't you enjoy your life and wait for even better news ? You see, I am used to wait - someone heard of Open Pandora ? or Pyra. For my Padora I had to wait a year. So keep cool ! Grrreetings

Not sure about any miracles of people in general returning but there is still a pretty decent fan base of qwerty slider lovers. The real miriacle would be seeing one built that could match flagship specs at time of release. This is the closest we've been to that in a long time though and will def buy an upgraded Pro2 if this one gives them enough success for them to want to do that. Part of me thinks one of the reasons for the slider downfall is when they started making them with midrange specs only and many had to chose between great specs or kb and that's when they started jumping ship.

Is it too much to ask that they please, please include at the very least a link to a brief summary instead of just a video? I don't always check my email someplace where I can watch/listen to a video, and even when I can, I have some very mild but still present auditory processing issues (gee, I wonder why I'm so interested in a phone that makes it easier to text....) which means getting information by listening to something takes that much more extra effort. And I'm sure I can't be the only one who cringes whenever they receive an "update" only to find that the only option to get the inform

I totally agree. I'm at the lower end of the 18 - 24 spectrum and never used a keyboard phone before (except trying out some Blackberries in stores). I always used slabs. I always wanted a keyboard phone but never got one. I was to young when there were any and later they kinda disappeared. At first I wanted to get the Priv but then I decided against it because of some bad reviews. The KeyOne/2 was never an option because of it's weird aspect ratio. So when I heard of the Pro1, I pre-ordered it within a few days. Most people I showed it to thought it was really cool but they would

I never had a QWERTY smartphone, only feature/dumb phones. I wanted a Droid R2D2 at the time, my mom wanted the Galaxy S3 and said either you upgrade with me or don't upgrade at all. So me not realizing QWERTY's were on their way out, upgraded.

The reason is: the sample size is too small...

@rejujacob can't be that old himself since 40+ is implied to be "older" :D. I also thought so in the past, but on forum and discord there are some people who never owned a keyboard phone before even and age group seems all over the place 🙂. My bet is that the somewhat even distribution of the poll will not change much even when the amount of votes becomes meaningful.

Now it works! The butterfly site opens

That something takes 4-5hours, does NOT mean a factory outputs only one unit in that period.... Both due to it not being one person only, and some processes are done by machines (We have seen videos on that long ago) Even though I hope all the best for them, I doubt it will ever be a product sold in millions. Should the miracle occur and people in general returns to usable keyboards, I'm sure they will find ways to have robots doing a larger part of the process than currently.

Cheers! Sorry for the nagging 😉

I caved and bought another Relay 4G. That way I don't have to mess around with getting stuff up and running on another phone. I can just flash Clockwork Mod, restore my nandroid backup, and be in business immediately, with all my apps. I'll keep my fingers crossed that this one lasts until I can get the Pro1 in my hands and get it all set up for real use. 😁

Hey fxtec, nice video! 😊 Made me look at microSDXC cards 😅

We’re going to setup a cloudflare proxy, which should in theory bypass whatever block is causing this.

Honestly you are the most pathetic person on this board. I fully trust Eric that he has replied multiple times as stated. Now you even become defensive, going full on Karen mode, and complaining that they want some data from you, so they can help you for the fifth time. If I would do business with a guy like you, I would probably just cut the contract. People like you always mean trouble. Be happy they didn't start to ignore you after the second baseless complain.

@Jhonny B I've seen your posts before and someone from FXTec has responded multiple times that you haven't responded to them. This new forum has a way to send a message to a user. You could be using that to contact Erik with your order number or whatever is needed. Yet, you spend your time bitching and making threats instead. It seems more like you are trolling instead of trying to resolve your order issues. Even your "method" of cancelling shows your willingness to be an ass instead of cancelling using the proper option which is provided.

Is this criticism or aliexpress advertising ?

One of the reasons it might appeal to the under 30s (and I am under 30 although this is not the reason I am waiting impatiently for my phone) We had (mid 20 year olds) physical keyboard cellphones as some of our first cell phones. I had the LG rumour, I had a sidekick, blackberry's were the coolest thing you could have for awhile. Just saying.

Closing in on the outer edge of the 18 - 24 option, but still there. Something to keep in mind for all age groups is that there's... let's say the average person and but also the nerds. The latter might not apply to 100% of us here, but many I'd guess. There are also many people in the higher age groups who are totally tech-illiterate... but I guess they're kind of dying out slowly over time now. No offense, old men. I don't get people who can do all their computing with just a phone or tablet... though I heard they exist. Everyone else should at least be using a hardware keyboard on som

I keep checking back to see if my age group is 'winning' lol

Well technology evolves that is true, but often what we get an use is dictated by the profit of companies, not by technological Progression. A slab is just easier and cheaper to make. Often the best things are still hand crafted and out of wood. Technological progression is just the reason the big companies are selling us, but often it is economic progression not technological. The funny thing is, people always believe them. Keyboard has died because Touchscreens became better? Not really. Sure there was a technological progression needed, but the Goal was not necessarily to improve phones.

I bet a lot of <18 year olds don't know phones used to have a keyboard xD

Yes it is the same store with phone-sized phones. Some idiot somewhere decided that flagships had to be huge phablets, and phone-sized phones should have mediocre specs. It is only in Japan that Sharp and to some Extent Sony has tried to fight that. But the Sharp devices are not produced for the international market.

Well i have been following it for sometimes now. I really suggest to F(x) tech, Please set the shipping date to June 2020. then you guys dont have to deal with all this criticism after ever 2 or 3 weeks. I dont know what is the rush here to get the phone? we can wait for another 6 months or even 1 more year perhaps. i guess many will agree with me, right?

I concur that the video is vague about the exact moment of shipping. That's a bummer, but at least it's the promised video update and I, for one, am happy about it. Probably going to be mid- to late November though. If that crazy shopping holiday doesn't spoil the fun; I really need this before Christmas guys!

so will some lucky customers get phones with "as video & tested by Liangchen" stickers?!

I assume it's referring to the phone battery, it will be charged at a later date. Couldn't charge it when you ordered as it wasn't ready.

For me the only surprising thing today is that they finally managed to annoy @EskeRahn 😉

I haven't posted much but been watching the forums, twitter, my email for any activity, waiting for my Pro1 to finally arrive. I share the frustration of seeing estimated dates come and go, but I have to say it's a bit much reading some of the childish negativity from some of you. I'm not talking about rational criticism which is really more like constructive feedback (which there has been a bit of, and fair enough as as estimated delivery dates have come and gone), but some of you are carrying on like FxTec has kicked your dog, or some scam operator intending to fleece you out of your money

As I usually say to my friends: If you told you would be somewhere at a specific time, then at the latest when you were supposed to leave home, you know you will not be able to make it on time. And unless the delay is trivial, well then send a short text that you are going to be late. Preferably with a new ETA, or wait sending an ETA to when you know (The delay could be you are waiting for a late babysitter). But you should NOT wait to after or immediately before the promised time, before communicating that you will be late. It is the same thing here. When they tell they estimate to