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I'm so sick of all this whining and blaming.... Yes their communication could clearly have been better. Have you guys ever been involved in a company manufacturing anything complex? Do you even have a clue on what you are talking about? If you want to be sure, why did you even consider to do a pre-order rather than wait for a on-the-shelf-product? If you do not understand or can accept that things happens in a manufacturing process that is out of the manufacturers control, your are just torturing yourself by doing pre-orders. I'm surprised that many in here can be so naïve as to expe

Hello all, As we all know Pro1 has passed Google's SafetyNet Certification previously and we have everything completed. However, due to the units shipped so far has unlocked bootloader, the device will still shown as "Uncertified" despite we have passed the security certification. (For users intended to root the phone, installing Lineage OS and Sailfish OS, please ignore the remaining and no future actions needed.) For users to activate Google Pay, and other features that requires SafetyNet approval, please do the following procedures to re-lock the bootloader: - Upda

I have contacted support yesterday and had some mail conversation. Today they have shared some valuable information with me and I have asked if I am allowed to share their reply with you. As now I have permission to share it, here is what support wrote:

You guys are cruel. I went doing some stuff for one hour and got that "35+ new replies" notification on my browser when I came back. I was pretty sure that was the sign an official statement had been posted.

Got FBE working. Should have a new build tomorrow morning (about 12 to 14 hours from now).

Okay test2 build is up at the page linked in the OP. Please note the instructions have changed. I have switched to MindTheGapps. This is a gapps package maintained by a Lineage developer and it plays nicely with A/B. Enjoy!

Jerk. 😉 Sorry, couldn't resist!

actually I should work in software right now, but no motivation so I post here....

I have to repeat my old man's motto. "Never compliment! It'll just make people f*** up." That didn't take long. People are losing their chill -- what a coincidence!

The stock firmware has been certified, you need to re-lock the bootloader to make that activated:

This is a WARNING! Stop deliberately spreading hyperboloid stuff where you already have been corrected by others and me. The first is NOT these guys, The second is an outright lie, where all were offered full refunds. (And they offered existing prototypes, or Pro1 coupons for those that preferred that) (My strike outs)

Maybe - on hardware, they may be called workarounds. 🙂 Like working with an SPI sensor which does not release MISO line when CS pin goes high (although datasheet says it does) but has another operation mode when it releases it. So there is a workaround possibility to switch operational modes before and after using that sensor. Another case, same (big) manufacturer, another SPI device, same problem but written in data sheet (in a separate place at interface documentation), however, without any possible workarounds at all. ...had to redesign the circuit and it went to I2C. ...anyway,

On the financial point, if they were having troubles I would be happy to donate or join some crowdfunding campaign for some semi-useless shit, buy a branded shirt, a paper bag from wallmart or a maga hat or something, I don't care. I want this company not only to deliver a device to me, but be successful enough to sell me a new one, make one for my gf with different needs etc. I know this is not the right place to tell this as no one from FX prolly reads this mess of a thread, but for me honesty would be the best strategy regardless. From what some are saying, they are very decent p

It is utterly important to keep critics valid and focused. There is a point where they could do better (communications) and there are a lot of points where it is insanely hard to do better without having a name first. For example the order of the fulfilment. Imagine this: First batch had problems with logistics, it was just to complicated for the partner Since the second batch should be big enough, they told logistics to just forget the order and deliver to anybody on the list. Second batch has a production issue (without a lot of experience this is unlikely to be fore

And do you think he is not disappointed? He is the one not getting the sales they had hoped for. Don't you guys get that they are at least as eager to deliver as we are to get them?

this is my mobile "desktop" solution. i want to make it with my pro1.

Since we're off topic and talking about the weather. I'd like to thank all of you for being a decent group. For all the frustration and aggravation of the waiting and not knowing everyone seems to be pretty chill. It's nice not seeing name calling and all the other trash that could be here.

I do not think F(x) Tec is lying to me. I have my "stock assigned" email #2. Maybe I will get a tracking number in a week and believe that is their intention, but I will not feel lied to if I don't see that tracking number before Jan 2020. I believe they are a very small, new company with too much optimism and not enough experience or influence on the third parties they depend on. Could their communication be better about those facts. Theoretically-- but pragmatically, when you are knee deep in a project not going as you envisioned, my observation is that good communication is first to

By "short order" I meant f(x)tec got in over their heads very early on and haven't recovered from it yet. NOT that they were only in deep water for a short time period. I don't see how you are throwing away £660. I have personally witnessed a different company manufacture newly designed electronic devices to be shipped worldwide. I can promise you that everything that has happened with f(x)tec is par for the course! I agree they should have handled communication better than they have, and it comes across like they are being dishonest. However, I don't believe there is any dishonesty

To be fair, the Moto mod was not discontinued because of Livermorium, but because of Motorola dropping everything.

Read that reply further, he only gives estimates when there are no big risks and even then he adds extra buffer for problems along the way. This works great when your clients accept that but not every project is like that.

What has it to do with anything that I got my retail device?? Are you saying that you would not be whining if someone else had been receiving the unit I got??? And if you look in the statistics in here, questioning if I followed the discussion is just... - well I will try to avoid using the words I feel would describe it. Their INTENTION was not to take money before shortly before, but they CLEARLY changed that before they actually asked for the money.Or did you happen to not follow that part of the journey? And yes Chen tried to get the Moto Mod keyboard up and running. But in

Alright, who here is named Richard?

I have to agree! I’ve been thinking the same thing. I never see anyone like....being dicks. Lol You guys rock!

Now that we have a working Lineage install, I think we need an issue tracker. I think the easiest thing to do is to use github since it has a built-in issue tracker for projects. https://github.com/tdm/android_device_fxtec_pro1/issues

Flash successful. No issues this time. Just remember kids: use a USB 3 cable connected to a USB 3 slot on your computer. It might just be my machine being weird though. But if the process gets stuck, just give it a try. I'm going to update this post as stuff happens or bugs appear. First bug: I'm using German keyboard layout, during the initialization Android asks you if you want to connect to a WIFI network. When trying to enter a password, the virtual keyboard does not pop up. When I open the physical keyboard, the screen does not change orientation and the keys I press do not ma

If this is what you are doing, I have a suggestion that might be helpful. Stop hoping for info to come across these threads and just wait for official emails. It takes much less out of you and you'll always be updated before you get your phone. 😀

A must have if you do not disable ALL the google stuff IMHO.

Forgive me pls, if I repeat what someone else may have said today, as I have not time yet to read all of today's posts ... but today @ 15:17 support wrote: "We are finding the recent developments in the forum surprising given that we are now finally shipping new batches every week." my only thought, I've not heard this before...

I have a feeling that i will get my pro1 just before xmas or shortly after. Although @EskeRahn and @mcdinner are trying their best to stop my order from being processed 😋

Well, in my desperation I asked support. Just assuming on my part they were not given false information by management, another EU batch is due to leave the factory by the end of this week. Stock assignments should start going out early next week. I am heavily skeptical but fingers crossed......for now.

Not me, RF hardware generally. I only write software to throw my mean callous, heartless exterior into sharp relief. (Or was that the poetry?)

Of course there was, to all those, and many more and worse situations. I haven't complained at all about late delivery, nor would I. Communications is a whole other topic though. A simple 'official' statement along the lines of 'batch no x has left the factory for shipment to customers, this will complete x% of preorders' is all that is really required. Statements of when it is hoped batches will leave serve little purpose, especially with no indication of the size of the batches, relative to number of outstanding preorders.

Well.. I ordered mine back a month or so for 736€. And yet when connecting to my Ubuntu server via RDP from my phone yesterday I was once again reminded why there's no alternative to waiting patiently for the pro1 to arrive: keyboard input was nearly impossible. So while I most certainly can understand the disappointment in regards to fxtec not delivering on time, I see no other way than to wait and keep the fingers crossed. The only real other way is to ask for a refund - which apparently does work, too. But as mentioned above: it's not an option for me.

It's already on the list. https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/device/#!/lxFC2xORT5VGOQd1DUYS

No, I don't think it was ever intentionally toying with anyone, but the roller coaster of fxtec getting excited and saying soon only to come back and more or less say well not that soon a few days later felt that way.

They are definitively more than two guys but yes, they were able to manage the project from scratch. There are really much technical knowledge had to be there to design a phone (including schematics, PCB, antenna system, mechanical parts, outfit design and tune all of them together - the process is much more longer). They also had to prepare manufacturing documentation, organize manufacturing process, had to check how it is going, etc. Prior to that, they had to do tests, apply for certification (and design the whole thing including PCB and antenna system to pass these tests), etc... ..

A bit of news on MAC addrs. The OEM writes /persist/wlan_mac.bin on boot using the binary /vendor/bin/macplugin. They checked this binary into their device tree without any source, so I don't know the exact algorithm. i'm in the process of reverse engineering it. It seems to generate 02:aa:xx:xx:xx:xx where "xx" is random. The kernel driver picks this up and strips the private bit so you get 00:aa:xx:xx:xx:xx. So there you go -- each device gets a unique, random, bogus MAC address. 😄 I'll investigate BT at some point soon. I would not be surprised if that got skipped entir

You forgot the "Hell no" option. 😉

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I second for ol' St. Nick James Bonding us our Pro1s

Hi All, Let me pre-fix this comment with saying that I have been a member of this forum since February 27, and since my first comment from that date, have been a silent lurker of these forums, as I felt I have nothing new to add. I am however, becoming more and more frustrated by the day, and having had conversations with the support team, have to agree with @glumreaper that they are doing the best that they can but the communication from others at the company is not forthcoming to them, or accurate. I was also advised by the support team not to share any of the information they have

Good verbiage "I expect, but don't guarantee." Finally they are starting to get it!

so someone is reading 🙂

And moto mod had issues with third parties which could probably never be resolved, yet Chen handled it like a champion and a winner. And I am certain the lessons learned will help to make the Pro1 successful :).

It has been merged with "On the production status" as they ended up talking about the same issue(s).

This has happened to me exactly once now. It happened before the OTA and has not happened again, but I don't think the OTA has anything to do with it. I am using Swiftkey for portrait mode, but it also interferes with hw keyboard settings. Maybe it has something to do with it, but I don't think so.

Oh, they are reasonably talkative when everything's fine. Just look at the posts made when the first devices shipped. This however, also leads me to believe not much is fine right now. Maybe even beyond what we're speculating already.

I would say it is intentional and there's clearly a pattern, therefore I cancelled. I'll pay the extra $50 for full price, but I don't like the notion of fxtec holding onto my money interest free for months at a time. I hope they enjoyed my loan and put it to good use but I couldn't wait any longer. I really wish they were forthcoming about how long it would take, I wouldn't have waited so long to replace my ageing LG v20. Make all the excuses you want for them but we're at least 5 months out (and counting) from when they originally planned to start selling and they've only shipped a handful o

There indeed should be a "hell no" option. I need the phone, will never cancel, not even if it takes them years. Nobody else is doing this, it's a challenging endeavor, they need all the support they can get and personally I really wish they succeed :).