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Some will, but I can't confirm that on an individual basis, there may or may not be a lot of people in the queue before you. Each batch now covers between 1-2/10ths of all pre-orders. This might disappoint some, and we understand this given how much all of you had to wait for the device, but the bigger picture is positive - we are producing and shipping devices a lot more frequently now that we addressed production and logistics related issues that were slowing us down.

Tracking details were emailed to our APAC and US/CA customers to those with stock assigned letters. The EU stock is in transit with a courier to our EU warehouse right now. I will write an update on the news thread later today when I get a chance.

I shall do this as soon as I get mine. I would NEVER use Scroogle Pay or any other GcrApp and shall wear an unlocked bootloader as a badge of freedom. 🙂 I don't lock my house or my cars, so why would I lock my phone?

We are now having batches leaving the factory every week, another one is expected to be in transit between the warehouses by the end of this week, so technically another batch of "stock assigned" letters should be going out early next week. I will provide more detailed info on this today once I get some time :).

If there are between a 1/10th and a 1/5th of phones shipping each week and there are only 2 weeks left until Christmas, then it's not pessimistic to say *the majority* of pre-orders won't be completed by Xmas, it's simple maths. Whilst it would be lovely and exciting to get it before xmas, I simply want this phone! I will get it when I get it. I spent money on the Cosmo over 1yr before getting that device. (The next part aimed at F(x)tec) Of course with thousands of well paid engineers here at Google UK's hq, it would definitely be in F(x)tec's benefit to have me walking aroun

Got a tracking # for 12/10 This is the most progress I have had so far. I'm in the US, It's moving.

This might be disappointing news to some (not me), BUT the forthright communication is much appreciated by all (including me)! It's long overdue and much needed. Thank you.

Got my tracking number!!! ETA 12/10 (US, IGG backer, had a stock assigned in the first batch)

The problem is that your boss can see your screen 😄

Well, welcome back when things settle down a bit 🙂 But please stop lying by saying people are lying when they are not... They gave an ESTIMATE, And yes that did not hold, but wrong estimates are, well wrong estimates and not lies.

Here here ...And to everyone (like me) who has been upset for a while and is still waiting ...this is what we have been asking for - and now we have got it ...So let us all treat Erik with respect and make sure he feels welcome here, and feels comfortable to be honest at all times, irrespective of whether he is the bearer of good or bad news!

I have contacted support yesterday and had some mail conversation. Today they have shared some valuable information with me and I have asked if I am allowed to share their reply with you. As now I have permission to share it, here is what support wrote:

So I have spent most of the day today trying to get TWRP to decrypt FBE. It has been quite an adventure, as my only prior experience with TWRP decrypt has been FDE on Android 7.0 which is quite simple to support. FBE on Android 9.0 requires a lot of infrastructure that I had not known about. I'm not done yet. Hope to have it working in the next couple of days. I'm also preparing an EDL package for user consumption. This will allow anyone to un-brick their device and restore the stock factory image no matter how badly they damage the software. But don't go erasing your entire

Thank you all for the feedback! Team is working on the fix for the keyboard unresponsive issue. It's quite random and cannot replicate easily. But we will do out best and solve ASAP.

If we are pessimistic, yes. We've had 2 batches shipped already, and the 3rd one is on the way.

You can safely replace "could happen" with "will happen". Even if illegal, at some point data gets stolen by someone. There are no tight systems. Though I would not consider other OS more safe as such, but at least they do not openly collect ALL the info they can scrape together like Google does, so the data could be leaked from either the phone OR Google. But the risk of an individual phone being hacked to get it's info is much much less than that the massive storage of data at Google will be attacked - a simple inside job is all it takes....

It is nice to see devices delivered 🙂. I will try to keep my spirit up till I receive my unit sooner or later. Just remember to post your feelings as soon you get Pro1 😉.

Although less outspoken about it, I'm also in the camp who does not like google and I intend to remove as much of the google apps as I can or use Lineage (although both are Android which is made by google but anyway). The sneaky thing about google is that it tries to gather as much data about you as it possibly can and uses it for profit, even when you try to turn it off there is always hidden stuff buried in menus in my experience and then it will for example ask me how did I like the supermarket or bar I just went to, why does it know this and why does it need to know it? And maybe fair enou

I wish I was posting on my own behalf, but here's a Japanese tweet that will likely not result in a forum post by itself: They seem happy about the shipping notice. So yeah, that's one for APAC.

Call it what you want. Estimated, scheduled, anticipated, due, I don't really care. But when you even hint at something happening and don't have an intention of following through, I consider it a lie. Withholding information is also a lie (10/29 they shipped a small batch and called it on schedule, leaving the majority of pre orders thinking they would get theirs, but we haven't. It's not like they didn't know how big the batch was or were unable to tell us that) I find it VERY hard to believe they didn't anticipate some of these delays. Also knowing that an outcome is highly un

Got mine too - fedex 1224703xxxxx Seems they're shipping US orders direct from HK too.... mine's still at the airport over there according to tracking. email:

Thanks a lot for this. I think that a lot of people that were asking for more information wanted info like this. Sure, it's not necessarily as good as "your device is shipping now" or something, but it is info and like you said the bigger picture is positive. This also to me seems like a pretty realistic estimation, compared to some of the previous information we had gotten.

It would be very helpful to send an email or post in the locked thread, rather than burying the information here.

From what I understand, banks do use it sometimes, but so does Netflix and lots of enterprise apps.

Got my tracking number as well! Everything the same as zurvan2.

I believe that it is better when the device comes with locked bootloader. Then people can use all Google services if they want without hassle. If someone wants to flash different OS to the device, it is trivial to unlock bootloader and flash whatever he/she wants (just like with OnePlus devices). If you do not input any personal information during start up I believe that Google does not collect anything from you since the device is fully wiped during flashing process. Of course it would be different thing if the bootloader would be locked permanently. Luckily that is not the situation with Pro

I think the thing people aren't mentioning is the employees at these places do you trust them? I'm a software engineer and I see all sorts which I could easily put on the internet anonymously.

And worse than that. In some countries information about political activity or even just sexual preferences could have life-threatening consequences in the hands of the wrong people.

Thanks for getting back quickly. Makes me feel cared for as a customer. Most of us are supporting F(x)tec through and through in the best way we can which is holding on to our preorders and to the edges of our seats. We are rooting for your continued success even if it is against all the odds.

Addendum to that xda video:

Good to know, I can stop smashing "refresh" button and get back to work

Off topic: In that link i stumbled upon fastboot oem off-mode-charge 1 That allows the Pro1 to charge while staying turned off. I do not know if there is a good reason for them to turn this feature Off by default (Or maybe it is Off by default without FxTec changing it?) Tried it On with slow charging, and from what I can see it works exactly as you would expect. Will try with fast charge when the level is sufficiently low for it to make sense. Works fine with fast charging too. ADD: When the off-mode-charge is Off, the device will automatically power up when power is appli

I regularly don't lock my front door wife goes mad 😄 (my area is definitely not crime free!!!)

I'm seriously thinking of ordering a second unit for this very reason, and also to make sure I don't need this Loo......err, PRIV anymore LOL

Were launchers 1 and 2 not good enough? I've always wondered why it was named launcher 3. 🙃

Now that we have a working Lineage install, I think we need an issue tracker. I think the easiest thing to do is to use github since it has a built-in issue tracker for projects. https://github.com/tdm/android_device_fxtec_pro1/issues

So I'm posting this in General because this is purely a matter of curiosity on my part, and I'm still (im)patiently 😉 waiting for all the logistics and production issues to pass so I can receive my device, so wouldn't really call it a support item. Does the Pro1 have esim support? And if not, is this something that could be enabled at a later stage with a software update? Some phones with the Snapdragon 835 SoC support esim, but not all of them: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8733&idPhone2=8647&idPhone3=8523#*,*,g955u https://www.manninfo

I am looking forward to the phone and don't mind them holding my 736 Euro. As I pointed out in another thread there's no alternative for me and I currently am on a Samsung S8. But RDP and Putty is too painful with OSD-Keyboard. Edit: waiting for QWERTZ-layout, Germany.

Sounds good. Got my fat cat SDXC today, just need something to put it in 😉

And if it does, can you have an esim, a normal sim, and a microSD card at the same time?

In most countries no. Here for example the company must at least give you the basic health insurance. However it is not illegal to loss your application sheet, or forget to answer you. Then there are countries like the US where they don't have to insurance you. Sure all this data must be anonymized but we all know how easy you get names out of it.

The really dangerous stuff is: They could sell the data, for example to insurances. Then you can't get a new one, just because you googled some things about a cancer type (could be medical research for school even). Or banks will deny you loans and stuff like that...

See the XDA review linked here

Yes sir. Something weird happened with that one and it got all goofed up (weird and goofed are technical terms here). 😀

On the keyboard layout issue. The qwertY and qwertZ keyboards are electrically identical. Basically the qwertZ is a logically unshifted qwertY. That is the letters are shifted back to their natural positions, and then a few national keys in the right pane. Have you tried if FinQWERTY works under Lineage too?

I can't imagine a situation where you wouldn't be allowed to use it under lineage on the same device tho, even if other use is somehow restricted....

It took 9 workdays (11 actual days) from stock assigned (4th of November) to tracking codes (15th of November). However, last time it took 4 workdays between shipping from factory and getting stock assigned, and this time it only took 2 days. So they seem to be shifting things, making this in my opinion an unreliable method to estimate.

To be fair, the Moto mod was not discontinued because of Livermorium, but because of Motorola dropping everything.

And moto mod had issues with third parties which could probably never be resolved, yet Chen handled it like a champion and a winner. And I am certain the lessons learned will help to make the Pro1 successful :).