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So I guess this is my official "I'm and Idiot" post. I talked to a friend of mine who got the Pro1 and he was able to address almost all of my issues. Talk about Seller's remorse. I know you all told me, and I have to live with the fact that I had it in hand and didn't give it a chance. So it's back on the list I go, along with 7 other people I got to sign up for one. Please forgive me.

Hi I'm from Germany, after I had received the stock assignment mail at the 29th of November, I got a UPS tracking number today, with a estimated arrival date of the 19th of December. Backed the moto mod and preordered the Pro1 very early as I thought, but my order number was already >11000... Greetings

The bluetooth that had to pair it, remove it, and repair it. Stupidest thing ever. And the wi-fi calling was a custom T-Mobile push that they turned on the feature - apparently it needs to be done for the phone, not just the number.

I do have my Pro 1, so these answers are for it. 1) Same as above, I don't want to remove the fingerprints, etc. I assume it's the same as the next case. 2) short press: nothing long press: opens the camera app. Does not take a picture. Does not allow access to any pictures, whether those taken in the current session or a previous session. I have not found any way to customize which app opens when you press the camera button. 3) (long press) launches the camera. No access to earlier photos. 4) it's a multi-stage button. half-press: focuses. full press: takes a pic

Also scheduled tomorrow here, and I am in luck as far as strikes go :).

Well if not even fxtec has a phone we are fucked 😄 Hope you get your device soon, it seems that production is rolling now

Remains to be seen. I feel so much better now that I ordered another one. I don't care what the wait its. Today I went into a T-Mobile store with my husband's okay to get whatever I wanted with no regards to cost. I left the store almost in tears because nothing would do. I guess maybe I needed to learn this lesson to know what I really wanted. And I missed all you guys ❤️

No, please be amused. Please laugh your ass off - my husband is. I definitely want this little puppy to grow. I learned my lesson. Now if my Nexus 5 KitKat can just nag on a little bit longer... hopefully this time it won't take a year to receive.

Tha is both sad (for you) and encouraging (for the Pro1); and also, forgive me, a bit amusing. Before you get mad at me let me explain: I read the whole thread from the beginning just now so it seems the change of heart was almost instant. On the bright side, thank you for spreading the word about the Pro1 and bringing new buyers aboard! By selling it to someone else you have actually expanded the circle of influence that will be reached by your former Pro1, this can only be good for business and we all want Fxtec to succed, don't we?

I added a few votes from a few computers at different IPs that I can access...even though I can't vouch for the phone yet since I'm waiting, waiting some more...

Picked up today in UK by UPS, delivery in France scheduled for tomorrow. 😱 😱 However, tomorrow will be a massive strike day in France, not sure I'll get it. Can't wait anyway, it's moving, and it's moving fast!

I have i tracking number! 🙂 It's from UPS, so far just says label created, so UPS has no day scheduled yet but from experience that will be early next week. Can't wait to check out the phone in person!! Very good job to all working on getting the phones out :-).

That's how it works on the Moto Z with the default camera app.

Pro1 is currently 7th and top 10 is allowed to present product live onstage at the Last Gadget Standing finals at CES in Las Vegas. However, it is a quite tight race between 3rd - 10th. Pro1 only needs about 80 votes to 3rd place.

I also have a TN 😄

I don't have Pro1 (yet) but I have Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact running Android 9.0 Pie with physical camera button. I believe that the action of the button is pretty much the same (on the Android level) but of course the camera app itself might be working differently. 1) With the phone screen off, but no screen lock enabled, when the button is pressed, what happens? - I am too lazy to test since I would have to delete fingerprint from the phone... 2) With the phone screen off, but with screen lock enabled, when the button is pressed what happens? - Single press: nothing happe

I've just checked. Order id #40 on IGG. I think that I'm the #26 backer, but some in front of me bought more than one. I remember #26 or #2X because I counted sometime ago, when it could be done. Frustration? 😄 You could add that I bought an Moto Z2 Force, which sits brand new in some drawer and my daily Relay 4G is dying. IF, either being #26 or #40 IGG backer, I have NO stock assigned so far of the 1-2-3 batches, the question is: how may phones were actually made and sent?!? 20? 25? 39? Like I've said earlier, maybe can someone explain to me like I'm a 4 year old...

If you want to get technical, it's a present day t-rex, but close enough!

I know some orders were shipped to EU today, with more to follow on Monday. Let’s see if it included anyone on the forums 🙂

[Sarcasm] No way, no how! There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for this and everyone responsible, in even the slightest way, should be shot! [/Sarcasm] Your kidding right? Nothing to apologize for, the missing r could have just been a typo. It's amazing to me how well those from non-English as their first language countries write in English (which is far from easy!). Heck, English is my first language and, due to lack of sleep, I didn't even spell the word "hear" correctly the other day! Separately, Google SafetyNet means absolutely nothing to me either. Nonetheles

Now you're going to get FxTec disqualified and won't get their free press at CES! You should edit and remove that, I haven't read the rules, but I mean common sense, don't post publicly that you cheated!

Thank you for letting us know at the risk of being laughed with, glad to see you are back on board and I sincerely hope it won't take too long before you receive one again :).

You got F(x)tec 7 new CLACK-stomers? ALL SINS FORGIVEN! :) Also, we'll likely get ours around the same time. I didn't order until November.

You are clearly not an engineer. This is a common "problem" of engineers (note: I'm myself one), you always pursue of perfection without accounting costs or other stuff. Probably this is even "worse" if you are a startup, because your first product will mostly define your way if your survive or not. But honestly why do people buy a 650€ phone if you don't have the money in your pocket? This is a dangerous ride for just a phone (even if it is with a keyboard)

I won't be a huge help. - Orderdate Mid-september - Ordernumber 38xxx - IGG coupon: no - Model: QWERTZ - Location: Germany - Day of payment: Start of october (first payment came back to me) - Stock assigned mail: LOL - Trankingnumber? LOL² - Phoine received Trololol

The way it worked on the Z2 was that you could only see the pictures you took in the current "session" without unlocking. Seeing earlier pictures required unlocking the phone.

01.01.1970 would be easier for everyone... then you would have waited ~1576512595 seconds which is a loooong time 🙂 I feel with you bro!

Mine is in transit (picked up today), scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I'm not in the same country as the warehouse, so that's pretty darn fast.

About 30 votes in few hours! Not bad at all. 3rd place is totally achievable. Let's do this!

Are you sure you paid on June 23? I'm pretty sure payment emails didn't go out until 1st August.

Is this a dog?

I did try TWRP, but it has very little functionality at the moment. It did not prompt for a password, for example. I am *not* stuck at the moment. I bit the bullet and completely wiped. I was also able to root -> use phone -> unroot -> Apply OTA -> root again without losing data, which is what I really wanted. I am not likely to experiment further while that is still true. The process of getting everything working just takes too long.

Well, I thought it was clear I just meant with a light tone that this thread is not the right place to argue on lawyer terms either. I guess I'll stick to the real core topic, it would be a shame to dilute the dense and non-speculative production information being posted since 87 pages.

My crystal ball appears to be up and running. It's showing that all of us who are on this forum, and who don't cancel, should have a phone by the end of July 2020.

I didn't scream, but could you explain to me, like I am a 4 year old, why the promise that the first batches will be for the IGG backers has been broken? I wrote to support and they told me that it was an error. C'moon. I understood that there were manufacturing and shipping delays, I undestand if they send first to some testers or people like EskeRahn who can give tech feedback and helped the company with the forum, but I don't understand why they didn't respect such a simple promise. BTW, if I'm not mistaken, I'm #26 IGG backer (+/- 1-2). No stock assignet yet. #26!

Got mine yesterday evening

That would be true of any provider where not all the bands are supported and a person only has unsupported bands in their location. We are talking about a specific issue of T-Mobile in Chicago, IL. But to attempt to get T-Mobile working at all, it seems that the APN needs to be added manually. The APN to add has been provided in another thread, but here it is again: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090

I got my tracking number (EU, second batch). Thanks F(x)tec!

I've been using Nova a couple days, and seems to be fairly good with keyboard and landscape, except two things I've noticed. Some settings menus don't fit on the screen but nova doesn't offer a way to scroll down. For example, I was trying to change my app drawer background color.... finally figured it out when I switched to portrait (and fyi - the black in their pallete isn't true black, gotta turn everything down). Also, if you use wm in adb shell to add overscan, it affects the text under launcher icons (even if they're not in the overscan area).

we should protest against this madness!

We're a compassionate bunch generally. The only forum member I know who is a bit mean-spirited doesn't come around that often.

I just got the Pro1 Update December Mail. The Mail I just waited for. @FxTec...why this took so long???? I'm only customer and not your friend. We may have the same interest to have this great phone but this mail came to late...You should send it in November. put there end of febuary and you have space left. Everytime remember. The people without a Phone by now pay what fxtech want or need. This Mail should be send month ago. For me all is fine now. Only the Phone is the real PRO here. Regards Panic Brothers

Which I don't understand is the third batch had to be already sent to UK warehouse and they told us stock assignment e-mails will arrive soon. Now, if I understand well, they will also ship these devices directly from China to EU. So, does mentioned third batch exists or parctically no shipments happened since the last e-mail mentioning the light leak issue? In other words, is there any chance for Pro1 to arrive this year for those who still not received stock assignment e-mails yet? However, I think no - and last deadline is end of January...

BOE is the supplier of screen panels that are used in Pro1. All the pictures are presenting components of Pro1 to be assembled for future batches.

From the "2019/12/12" date written on the stickers in the picture with the boxes, I'd say those are on time to be batch four, but are more likely batch three that left the factory one week/batch late (if they've left already). Edit: From replies I've gotten on the Discord: BOE are screens, so those boxes do not contain Pro1s.

I'd like to have root access on the Pro1, but I don't want to install an alternative OS like LineageOS or SailfishOS. Is there currently a way to accomplish this?

No... If or when the production and delivery issues are sorted, I'm likely to buy then. The reason I sent the message to support is to give them the option to fix the issue or issue a refund before I have to request a chargeback... I'd much rather have the phone, but, on 31DEC, 153 days of my 180 day chargeback time will have passed. I'm not willing to let that protection go... I've run my own IT business since the 90's. Built custom hardware and I've never repeatedly blown deadlines like this. I will admit I've never done mass production overseas, however, I have contracte

That's my biggest issue with what you're saying. You're implying there's no way they'll not deliver, which just isn't 100% confirmed. You can argue about how likely it is, but you can't argue that a startup has no chance of going bankrupt. Again, that information is unreliable at best. Might as well do the math and just make some numbers up in my opinion. There are definitely broken promises here yeah, which probably feel very similar as lies to the people on the receiving end. Personally I also don't really believe they truly believed some of the things they have said (like on

I now also have one as above, for reference my order number is #11XXX, IGG backer, UK QWERTY, paid 1 August 2019. Feeling relieved that it is finally on its way, and happy that F(x)Tec seem to be getting a bit better with communication, but that is still an area for improvement for sure.

oh - they need to fix this! (Serious VIM addict here) 😱