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I just had to create an account to chime in as a voice of reason here, because there is some seriously toxic entitlement going on in this thread. I, as I'm sure pretty much everyone else who actually desires this device, have been waiting for something like this for 10+ years now. Living through this dumbslab revolution has been awful, and while I haven't been as dedicated as some people here have in their efforts to keep the keyboard alive, I cannot get used to touchscreens and never will. Production issues happen. I was most recently employed with a company that did a lot of smartp

I got mine 10 min. ago😀 I bought it from Dragonbox in December.

You should ask F(x)tec to refund you and If they do not, aks your CC company. As of now there is no need to use CC protection over normal refund which they do.

They should just ask for a refund through F(x)tec first no need to harm the companies credit rating.

So the story gets weirder. I have a story to tell about nearly bricking my Pro1 3 times... that's a story for another thread and would tell you more about the user than the Pro 1, but I finally ended up just reflashing the original image that Chen posted and taking all four updates including yesterday's. Lol, I forgot how much I put into getting this phone set up the first time. But at least my SMS is working again. I knew how to set up Verizon again and it just worked. Will it fail again at some point or did I do something different in the setup? Did the January update do something?

These are just reminders. Life is hectic after the Holidaze. Don't want anyone to miss a deadline inadvertently. Some dates to keep in mind: 19 days from today: January 26, 2020 = 180 days (6 months) since the first day Pre-order payments were submitted (July, 31, 2019). Why it matters: the ability to chargeback on your credit card expires at 180 days. 17 days from today: January 25, 2020 = Chinese New Year. This lands on a Saturday, so the 7-day long celebration begins the previous day, Jan 24. But factory workers start heading home mid-January and don't return until

Morning i took phone to the nearest service center - it was disassembled here. All connection loops where in salt and green oxide, after cleaning with Kontaktreiniger (Liqui Moly) and assembling it works now. Thanks God, electronics wasn't damaged by short curcuits. Serviceman said that all inner plate connectors are opened and vulnerable to water, and there are lot of holes in cover case - dynamic, microphone, sim-slot... now i try to find as tight silicon case, as it possible. May be glueing with silicon sealant unused holes - f.ex, i dont need 3.5mm jack, because of using bluetooth headset.

I sure hope that wowcube isn't the phone form factor of the future xD

@ttodd You make some good points, but there's a lot of points that are almost technically correct, but not quite. Like I'm pretty sure what you claim is a breach of contract isn't even close to that. Or what you're calling a strawman argument, isn't a strawman argument, he isn't making the counter argument easier to attack, he's just using an analogy. I agree with one of your main points (I think) though, that people shouldn't abuse the chargeback protection all willy nilly. Always first try to find a solution with the seller first, and it still seems that F(x)tec's doing this. If th

I imagine the reason he thought the camera button didnt take photos is due to the lack of feedback. No thumbnail, no shutter sound. I didnt think I was taking photos at first either. I do hope this is fixed shortly as this affects these first impression type reviews.

It appears voting is over. You could like it...

Very common service "we can repair Samsung, Nokia, iPhone, Xiaomi, or any other mobile phone/tablet/gadjet", i don't think that in Russia i can find special FX Tec specialists. Serviceman says that "inner slider mechanism and disassemblying is like old Nokia n9, nothing very difficult".

Well I'm also biased to kb phones in general and have also been waiting for years for a chance at another 5 row horizontal slider. I pre-ordered this and had a custom case made months ago. I just hope that this is a hit and if there is another one that some of the common constructive feedback is not ignored. I was probably not that constructive with the way I said "didn't seem like a good design". I do think a slider should be intuitive with the way it opens though. I guess if I ever get my phone, I will know for myself what I can only asertain from common denominators of reviews.

Exactly. If you try to push it straight forward, it's a bit hard, but if you push at a certain angle at the very edge of the curve, kind of pushing up and not forward, it slides perfectly without an issue. Takes a week to get used to, and then it's only the satisfying "click" left.

I imagine you found the same script as me. The reason I think mine not have worked right right as I didn't use the procedure for incremental ota, which I think must be necessary. For anyone else playing with this, here is direct link to OTA file from the source: http://hwfotadown.mayitek.com/ota/root_data02_2/idealte/idealte8998_9.0/QX1000/en-US/other/QX1000_EEA_20200106110245_20200106-1105/2020010614044563241.zip And here is xda thread with tool to extract: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/extract-files-ota-payload-bin-diff-t3959161

I found a script to extract OTA updates, and the most recent OTA seems to have modified boot.img. So we will want to use an updated boot.img with root.

That shaped into what I would have expected, a nice left skewed distro. Lol. I may not be the oldest one in the forum, but I'm apparently the oldest one willing to take this poll. 😄

The job of your local fire brigade is to extinguish fires. Yet you will be wasting their time if you ask them to extinguish a candle, that you could easily blow out yourself.

You can always download the latest version here. https://github.com/anssih/finqwerty/releases

Not sure it would increase the production cost much but definitely design time will.

Ah that's different definitely!

You have to sign up for a Wish account and I think it's pot luck what freebies pop up in the list.

And probably also the repairability. It is easy to make a waterproof block of glue....

Yes, and please note if not using FinQwerty but the default driver for the qwertY layout, you should NOT select "US", but DE-select all tick-boxes. A bit counter-intuitive, I know. And this also means the symbols on the digits needs Fn (i.e. yellow arrow) rather than shift - and that is counter-intuitive too. ADD: Notice the slightly odd "None" offered by FinQwerty, the purpose of that is to offer the exact same thing as no tick-boxes selected. BUT this can be combined if you use more than one language.

Well strap a keyboard on it and at least one guy on the discord will buy it 😄

You do not need root to get to the files, but as normal users we are not able to overwrite/edit them (without root). /system/usr/keylayout and I think vendor_181d_product_5018_version_0001.kl /system/usr/keychars and I think vendor_181d_product_5018_version_0001.kcm (the .kl file is a 100% copy of the generic generic.kl , unused entries not removed) Vendor_181d_Product_5018_Version_0001.kl Vendor_181d_Product_5018_Version_0001.kcm

The first question you will get from a CC company filling a claim, is if you have asked the company for a refund, and what the response was. And unless you want to lie to them, they are not going to waste their time on a case before you have asked for a refund yourself.

No. Refund request of CC is there for you as your last step to request refund. It is an insurance and not something you should use in everyday life but in case of spoofing. If a company gives you a refund option, you should use it. Also, the very first step should be to contact company / seller and ask a solution in any cases. Otherwise, if you claim you CC insurance while you have other options, you harm the company and not being fair. Also, F(x)tec has always refunded on request, so you should request your refund from them instead of contacting your card issuer for no valid rea

Especially since many people (shockingly and appallingly many; have people no patience anymore?) have stated that they got their refund by just asking nicely. Myself, I don't want the money; I want the phone, and I'll wait for it.

Before Christmas... End of December.... 1st week of Jan.....and Definitely by the 20th Jan...

Just remember "Function Delivery is key"

A single water drop that comes in the wrong place can cause havoc on any device though of course very unlikely. If you were unlucky and the snow was contaminated with salt from the road, it can have caused more problems than pure water by itself. I have used the device in very mild rain (took an incoming call), so it not just the first water drop it sees that kills it.

On 2, that is in the launcher. Press and hold any blank space on the home screen, Select Home settings Select Keyboard Shortcuts

1. Two settings are relevant to this: A. In settings there are slider settings, these are settings specific to the keyboard. One says force landscape when keyboard open. If you turn this on, it'll work for the majority of apps. B. In quick-settings, you can turn on auto-rotation. This works for more apps than the force landscape slider setting, but some apps are still forced portrait no matter how you rotate. C. If you must turn apps landscape that are forced portrait, use split screen to put them on half the screen. 2. I havent played with this but I think it

Root switch would be convenient, though probably not allowed on Google's Android indeed. Magisk does more than just simply provide root though. On that note I'd like to urge F(x)tec to provide updated flashable images along the OTA updates or at least updated boot.img that can be patched with Magisk later. It appears to be not technically impossible to scramble together the image file from an intercepted incremental OTA archive and the initial image, but I don't think there's been success in this yet. Root is technically not an advertised feature like the alternative OS support, but I hop

I'm guessing the same thing that happened to delivering in July. Or 'Summer'. Or 'within a couple of weeks of payment'. Or early November. Or mid November. Or by the end of November. Or early December. Or "definitely by the 20th of December".

Black Beauty arrived today:

It is MUCH more important NOT to use quick/fast charging in daily usage. Use an old say 0.5A charger, or a USB output from a pc or radio. It will be able to charge the Pro1 while we sleep, but does it slowly, and thus with marginally heating, and that really matters for the overall battery life. Use the quick/fast charging when in need only. It is like eating junk food. Occasional usage is not an issue - but don't do it every day. I have a lot on charging on my blog, e.g. start here

Yep, that's the one I found. I don't claim to understand much of what it's doing. I did use the differential mode, and for the files it is *modifying* it looks like it's doing something sane, but it also needed other files that didn't exist (e.g. hyp.img). I just "touch"ed them and then the script proceeded. It also needed all files named ".img" instead of the other extensions in our stock rom. I ran it against all of the OTAs, and each one produced a modified boot.img. I'm also not sure if the OTAs are each supposed to work against the stock rom, or if they should be applied one aft

Thanks. Yes, problem was in selecting "US" layout in default driver for qwerty layout. I'll look at FinQerty too - haven't used it before, i used ExternalKeyboard for creating custom layouts.

The multiple reviewers/owners saying how hard it is to open, have to train yourself to open and afraid they will fling it across the room or drop it on the street doesn't really give me confidence that it's a good design to me.

It's like when you mention a pet, you can't just say that and not provide a picture.

I just want to share that i have Galaxy note 8 which is water proof but it has the 3.5 jack and sim slot. I have seriously tested it while on a trip to iguassu falls where under the water fall with heavy water drooping i took many photos and phone had no issues. my point is that having 3.5 doesnt makes it impossible to be water proof

Same here I always thought that

Back on magnetic cables, this arrived yesterday. https://amazon.com/gp/product/B07WRPXXNW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It is the thinnest adapter I could find in terms of how far it extends past the back of the phone. Here are some quick shots with a not great camera (apologies for quality). The hardest one to make out is my attempt to get a level shot over the back of the Pro 1 to see there is just the tiniest bump poking up. The straight on shot from the bottom almost makes it look like it is even with the back and it may be even with the highest elevation

That review lives somewhere I don't. Shipping incomplete software? Wow when was the last time you got something which does not receive patches the following months? Sure most smartphones work great from the beginning, but they all have the same 3 components... The only valid point here is the FP sensor which is indeed horrible.

Well there is reduced tear to the usb port. But the long shot might again be in advantage to the manufacturing. Cheaper water proofed devices. Just one slab glued together. No ports at all. No repairability at all. The same reasons they prefer a device without a keyboard. It is again something big marketing campaigns try to force into our habits. Luckily our planet has inexhaustible resources for battery, so it does not matter that it literally fries yours ... Oh wait!

You know you can just paypal fxtec some money if you so badly want to go above and beyond to help them? Taking a net negative (waiting longer AND paying more AND giving them a zero interest loan in the meantime) is literally the same as giving them money, so you might as well just do that..... If you want to give fxtec the "absolute best future possible" just give them all your money. You can't put out absolute statements like that and then not follow it up. There is no line in the sand if you want the "absolute best future possible". Why not work for them for free, too?

https://source.android.com/devices/input/key-layout-files https://source.android.com/devices/input/key-character-map-files