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Hi everyone, Exciting update today. Liangchen is visiting the factory in China at the minute and he expects all of the pre-orders will be produced by the 18th of January, so in less than 5 days now. We have already produced a very significant number of pre-order devices, which are waiting for the full list to complete by the 18th. As you are all well aware by now, once the devices are all produced on the 18th, the stock will be rotated between our warehouses, so there will be, I'd say, 1 more week after complete production before you receive your tracking. Just so I don't overpromise

Thanks for pointing out before the mass panic :). Corrected to January as it was meant.

Just an update. Today I received the in-ear´s. No I don't have test it 🙂 The cable is "black transparent". [Pre-Order | IGG | QWERTZ]

@Erik From the math, it sounds like Feb 27th is a typo and you meant Jan 27th. Can you clarify?

[Note: This post is on an esoteric topic, and is only suitable for people who enjoy tinkering with their phones. Please don't try any of this if you aren't willing to erase everything on your Pro1] Project Treble made it possible in theory to run new versions of Android without requiring any OEM updates. If you've tried this in the past then you know the usability results can be 'mixed' 😉 The good news is that the Pro1 ships with fairly good Treble support, and you can find some information about how well it works while running an Android 10 generic system image (GSI) at https://github.co

It's either that, or using production devices, which we like to save for pre-orders at the minute. Right now that is the priority - we didn't want to affect the already small batch from 2 weeks ago by taking a bunch of devices to CES which will never be owned by a user.

Honestly while I find this really really nice. It may have been more important to have good devices at CES. In the end we all need you to survive. But in the end it is a nice move, thank you!

So just a quick update regarding Secure Boot. I had considered posting a new thread about this but I'm not sure it's warranted. So I'll just drop this here... I spoke with FxTec and they confirmed that they disabled Secure Boot intentionally. The rationale was that it makes the device more developer friendly, especially for non-Android OS's. I'm not sure I agree with this conclusion, but that is/was the decision. The one thing that disabling Secure Boot allows is building a custom abl (boot loader). I have yet to see anything that requires a custom abl. But it does leave the

Here's another (related) review - audio review/1st impressions from Steve Litchfield's and Ted Salmon's Phone Show Chat Ep. 533 (discussion of the Pro1 starts around 42'40"): https://ia801408.us.archive.org/30/items/psc533/psc533.mp3 I was pleasantly surprised at how complimentary Ted Salmon's comments were overall. He's definitely persuaded me to not cancel my order yet 🙂

Maybe all of fxtec should go on a business trip to the US and each member brings a set of phones in their carry-on.

Just wanna give an update as fast as possible. I just received a confirmation email of my refund a few minutes ago. Sorry to make a scene guys

Just a guess, but a reason for device manufacturers to not make call recording available could be legal, rather than technical. Under quite a number of jurisdictions call recording is illegal (without explicit consent of both parties)...

For me it's mostly solved simply by owning the phone a while. It's thicc enough that you can grab it without accidentally pressing the screen.

We use our own production units for sales meetings :).

In a pinch you can always try to enable the keyboard backlight manually with the command: This is inconvenient and doesn't work on stock, but it is better than nothing.

Some footage from CES. FYI, the CES demo units are early developer units (as you know we are very tight on stock with the pre-orders), hence the strange rotation behaviour in the video.

It is true that most likely nobody wants to attack eric directly. But it does feel like it, which is enough. I bet this is no fun for eric. Harsh critic is never constructive, even though it might have a constructive core. But one could never ever take it constructive. Either you block it because the tone was off, or you accept it but feel shitty because the asshole is right. Which will most likely result in a lower involvement. They term constructive critic may be technically what you describe but most modern definitions of "constructive criticism" do involve a friendly manner (And

...I do not think I break any secrets by saying that something similar to edge null is already active in the hardware driver. The outer most pixels are not touch sensitive. The whole display was active on the early builds, where the problems was much more pronounced.

Edge Null, works pretty well for me. You do have to remember to take it off battery optimization or Android 9 will keep closing it after a while. Like Netman, I was okay after some use, but this app just makes it so I don't have to think about it. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meatcube.edgenull&hl=en_US

There are build tools available natively under Sailfish too, and I'm pretty sure QT is fully supported. I'm not a developer, but for fun I tried to build mupen64plus (N64 emulator) from 2.5.9 source pack on Pro¹, and was able to do it. I noted every package I installed to get the make to work, and other than one of the video plugins saying it didnt support aarch64, make worked fine, and the output runs. zypper install SDL2 SDL2-devel libpng libpng-devel freetype freetype-devel zlib zlib-devel gcc make nasm gcc-c++ libhybris-libGLESv2-devel boost-devel Point being, if that worked so e

Well not for me, but only because I often use it one handed. Once I reach all the way to the left with my thumb my palm does touch the right edge.

@Doktor Oswaldo @Zamasu Let's chill. This isn't fun for anyone watching people bicker (whether it be you two or anyone else, as many people have). I understand this specific thread has gotten completely off its original goal but I can assure you nobody cares to watch an internet fight go on here. We all want the same result, and many of us are frustrated; were cut from the same cloth here. If you have problems: congratulations, you're not alone. If you want to defend fxtec to the your dying minute, happy to hear it. But either way, stop arguing on something that has no value added one way or a

Thanks for the link 😊 I installed FinQwerty v1.5.2 on the Jan 10th Android 10 GSI build and it seems to work.

You can get the latest apk here: https://github.com/anssih/finqwerty/releases

Glad to hear his positive tone, but it was really too bad the software wasn't working as smoothly as the production units do. Not just the bad screen orientation behavior, but the screen keyboard popping up in landscape ( that has never happened to me). Someone seeing only this video might get scared away.

Reproduced here, thanks for the report.

I did not mention letter shifted qwerty being a flaw at all. The wobble is in closed position at the bottom of the phone, it wobbles from the left to right making sounds when it moves. I asked people here about that and so far nobody else had the same issue. By "right side buttons" I meant volume, power and fingerprint sensor. Not the keyboard. I feel like you completely didn't understand my previous post. Where did I want a PC with phone capabilities? I wanted a smartphone with keyboard and issues I mentioned happen in portrait mode. The phone is annoying to use in portrait,

At least they do look good!

given all the back and forth on this thread that now seems almost philosophical... A video just for you 😄

I agree, but they have had problems with USA customs when shipping bulk to the USA before. We don't know if that has been resolved and we don't know which approach they intend to take regardless of whether that has been resolved. I'm not asking for what the best approach is (stating for clarity, not being negative). I'm asking if fxtec has made a decision yet on how they will ship to USA customers, so that we know what to expect.

Ermahgerrrd... Is it really happening!? The world will clack in joy! #TheClackening

This link does not provide a definition for "constructive--criticism" only for "constructive". Well it does contain: "helping to improve; promoting further development or advancement (opposed to destructive):". So if it is rude and nobody listens to it it is also not constructive by this definition because it does not help. But that is not the point, I said a lot of definitions: https://www.definitions.net/definition/CONSTRUCTIVE+CRITICISM http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/constructive-criticism.html Just the top google results. (The links do contain what I said, that is why

I completely disagree with all of this. Especially if you're looking at what's on this forum, as that would apparently be so harsh people block it off. Also, yes that is what it technically means, why would you then continue to argue that it means something else? Oh yeah, that's real constructive, to act like you're above somebody while not actually teaching anything. 👍 I know how search engines work, I'm not an idiot. Also, look at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/constructive--criticism No mention of the tone, just that it's supposed to be helpful, which it was.

It's kinda sad how this video also shows right away how prone the display is to accidental touches on the edges. Hopefully we'll have some solution for that working with both orientations in the future.

@cmar In fact I thought about this and should have gone for a post without a quote. It was more like an automatic reaction to hit quote. Please forgive me. I hope you feel not attacked. I am sorry I have taken your post as an example for my speech.

Used to have this issue. Installed an app called ultimate rotation control to deal with the rotation. Working perfectly for my use case.

Seems like keyboard unresponsiveness bug is almost gone by the OTA update. Actually it seemed to be totally gone, but yesterday my keyboard stopped working for few times. Every time it happened it was right after screen timeout while having keyboard out (I left the phone lying on the table with keyboard opened for a while.) But earlier only reboot helped to fix the issue, but now it started to work again after I closed the keyboard, rotated the phone to portrait, switched to some other app, opened virtual keyboard, typed something, opened the keyboard again, went back to original app and then

I understand that and believe me, I'm not being negative just realistic. If the last website update was in fact November, and they expected pre-orders to be done by Christmas and be ready for general sales at that time then it was an unrealistic expectation to think that new orders not covered under the preorder price would be delivered in 4-6 weeks. Most people on the forum knew that and there were multiple suggestions by others to change the site so no new buyers felt mislead like they apparently do now. Things can happen and that's understandable but it really is their responsibility to d

Easy there white Knight. I'm not attacking King FX. Just saying that they knew it wasn't ready for generak delivery in 4-6 and chose not to change that even after many many posts suggesting they do so at the time.

I don't feel the situation as bad as @Gon009 feels. Personally, I have learned these button placements. I agree fingerprint sensor could have been placed a bit higher as I have also touched it occasionally but otherwise I can find convenient positions of my fingers to use it, so it may not be a huge problem. However, it still has bugs in software like forgetting fingerprint settings after reboot. For me, it is a really good device. Performance-wise it is very good, keyboard is awesome, and the image quality of the screen is brilliant, GPS reception is perfect (better than on my prev

Well he's not entirely wrong either. They've changed the site a few times already and had opportunity to remove that and be more forthright about shipping on the main page.

Then you should be aware of the differences between that and a company like F(x)tec. Differences which substantiate different judgements about delays for both, the perhaps most obvious being one sounds more like B2B and the other is B2C. If you cannot see that for yourself, or what such differences actually mean, I wish you good luck with your small company, which you then might need more than you might like. P.S.: I would have ordered the Pro¹ for the price they were asking even if it would have come with the Snapdragon 636 I've currently got in my Moto Z3 Play, which is already more tha

I have been playing with chroot on the Pro¹ lately, extremely happy with it, even though it is still rough around the edges. Even my N900 never felt so close to an actual pocketable computer. Therefore, moar pics. I typed this post and uploaded images using the Pro¹. cmus (not affected by SFOS volume, but it has its own volume settings anyway): cmus and nnn file manager side by side, I really appreciate tiling since SFOS does not allow that: And an additional tile for another tool: Some random programs in different terminals in Tilix and the sidebar showing c

(Calm down, it's just a meme)

That's an interesting perspective. May I ask how you came to that conclusion? My feeling is exactly opposite. The OEM may or may not provide security updates for a period of time after release. My copy of the BSP is on tag LA.UM.7.4.r1-05500-8x98.0 which was released August 23, 2019. Incremental updates may have newer code, I'm not sure because I don't do OTAs. But either way, IdeaLTE will stop publishing updates at some point. As a member of Lineage and former Cyanogen employee, I can assure you that many/most of the Lineage developers care a great deal about secu

The good news from this thread seems to be the confirmation the Pro¹ being easily serviceable. Kudos to you taking the right action and let a professional solve this correctly. Was that a 3rd party repair shop not related to F(x)tec even or did they recommend to you where to go?

That feature only works when you use stock launcher, so it is not available under Nova launcher.

Very common service "we can repair Samsung, Nokia, iPhone, Xiaomi, or any other mobile phone/tablet/gadjet", i don't think that in Russia i can find special FX Tec specialists. Serviceman says that "inner slider mechanism and disassemblying is like old Nokia n9, nothing very difficult".